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<blockquote data-quote="Eight" data-source="post: 2728425" data-attributes="member: 73370"><p>the erosion of the recruiting classes is not just a last year event and it hasn't always been kids transferring out. </p><p></p><p>i find it interesting people keep focusing on last year and seem to ignore what has happened in jamie's first three recruiting classes</p><p></p><p>2016 - 3 of 4 no longer with the program and none early to the nba. bane will be a senior, fisher's career was derailed by the knee injuries, noi had some injury problems, showed flashes at times and who knows exactly what happened last year, and josh parrish was encouraged to transfer out. </p><p></p><p>2017 - 4 of 6 no longer with the program (presuming lat is on his way out) and none early to the nba. samuel is the guy in this class and he was ready to contribute the year before, but had to sit due to transcript problems. solid low post presence and they are going to have to find a way to include him in the offense more as they did vlad. rj has been inconsistent on the offensive end and still really raw for a guy two years in a college program . olden transferred out to a smaller program, who knows what has been going on with lat, angus has fled for the west coast, and andre pierce decided pro ball in eastern europe was better than playing school. andre rafus was going to be a key piece, but he wasn't going to be able to qualify and ended up at some small school.</p><p></p><p>2018 - 3 of 4 no longer with the program and none early to the nba. archie transferred out to utep, alok transferred out ucf, davis transferred out to smu and that leaves russ barlow who really looked unprepared last year in the small action he got in the middle of the year.</p><p></p><p>10 of 14 recruits from 3 classes gone and from what i can see only archie and alok are kids who cut and ran during a season. </p><p></p><p>you have a number who appeared to be encouraged to look elsewhere for playing time (parrish, olden, angus, and davis).</p><p></p><p>you have a few who injuries were and issue and a group who knows [ What the heck? ] happened with them. </p><p></p><p>i had a sales manager long ago who said that if you have 1 or 2 missed opportunities that "are really good stories of what went wrong" you have something to tell at the bar later that night, but when that begins to become a pattern there is a damn problem somewhere.</p><p></p><p>jamie has changed some key staff and he is close to starting over with his roster. i am not ready to say those first 3 classes mean there is a big problem, in the program, but this is more than kids having a false sense of themselves due to aau, is more than "everyone is dealing with in college sports" and would be a legit reason for big concern if the pattern doesn't change pretty damn quick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eight, post: 2728425, member: 73370"] the erosion of the recruiting classes is not just a last year event and it hasn't always been kids transferring out. i find it interesting people keep focusing on last year and seem to ignore what has happened in jamie's first three recruiting classes 2016 - 3 of 4 no longer with the program and none early to the nba. bane will be a senior, fisher's career was derailed by the knee injuries, noi had some injury problems, showed flashes at times and who knows exactly what happened last year, and josh parrish was encouraged to transfer out. 2017 - 4 of 6 no longer with the program (presuming lat is on his way out) and none early to the nba. samuel is the guy in this class and he was ready to contribute the year before, but had to sit due to transcript problems. solid low post presence and they are going to have to find a way to include him in the offense more as they did vlad. rj has been inconsistent on the offensive end and still really raw for a guy two years in a college program . olden transferred out to a smaller program, who knows what has been going on with lat, angus has fled for the west coast, and andre pierce decided pro ball in eastern europe was better than playing school. andre rafus was going to be a key piece, but he wasn't going to be able to qualify and ended up at some small school. 2018 - 3 of 4 no longer with the program and none early to the nba. archie transferred out to utep, alok transferred out ucf, davis transferred out to smu and that leaves russ barlow who really looked unprepared last year in the small action he got in the middle of the year. 10 of 14 recruits from 3 classes gone and from what i can see only archie and alok are kids who cut and ran during a season. you have a number who appeared to be encouraged to look elsewhere for playing time (parrish, olden, angus, and davis). you have a few who injuries were and issue and a group who knows [ What the heck? ] happened with them. i had a sales manager long ago who said that if you have 1 or 2 missed opportunities that "are really good stories of what went wrong" you have something to tell at the bar later that night, but when that begins to become a pattern there is a damn problem somewhere. jamie has changed some key staff and he is close to starting over with his roster. i am not ready to say those first 3 classes mean there is a big problem, in the program, but this is more than kids having a false sense of themselves due to aau, is more than "everyone is dealing with in college sports" and would be a legit reason for big concern if the pattern doesn't change pretty damn quick [/QUOTE]
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