Hoosierfrog
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It’s the hair…
Holgerson out at Houston
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BrewingFrog
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Because he is a part of the Coaching Tree that produced the offense that TCU is currently using. He is, at present, not connected with TCU and thus can look upon what is going on with fresh eyes. There is a strong possibility that he will be able to help guide things along far better than they are going at present.
You just argue for the sake of argument, don't you...
Endless Purple
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Wasn't Dana on the coaches show several years back with GP talking about the game. If I remember correctly, many here thought those two both provided really good football insight.
hometown frog
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Almost wouldn’t surprise me if OU doesn’t try and pick up Holgo for their OC position now that Lebby is off to Miss St. So I’m not sure he’d be available for a special assistant role at TCU even if Sonny was interested.
Limey Frog
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I'd take him as OC in Fort Worth if J. Tape-fingers gets the family special in Starkville.
hometown frog
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In a heartbeat
Limey Frog
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Would make TCU vs. Gary Patterson's Houston High Cougars pretty spicy.
Frog-in-law1995
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Because when his duties have only included offense, he’s been massively successful. He just got Peter-principled as a HC. Nttawwt?
Edit: it’s also the hair.
swcfrog
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Send Briles to Houston and let him totally take their program to Hell.
gohornedfrogs
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He's not, really. Art Briles developed this veer 'n shoot offense at Stephenville before he ever coached at the college level. It's true Briles and Holgerson coached under Leach, but not this offense. When he coached with Holgerson, they were running the Air Raid. Here's the coaching tree as of a few years ago. It now includes Joe Jon Finley and Josh Heupel at Tennessee, as well as Jeff Lebby.
For more: https://americaswargame.substack.co...ted with Art,after being fired amidst scandal.
PurplFrawg
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does that mean we don't have to pay him as much?
Sangria Wine
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I believe Gary’s buyout was a lump sum payment of $11.5MM in addition to his 2021 annual salary. GP had a big tax bill for 2021, but I can’t see that his taking another head coaching job would impact the TCU books at this point.
Most of the head coaches contracts nowadays do not even include the provision of payment reduction/elimination if the coach accepts another head coaching job. Jimbo could in theory take another lower level head coaching job for $5-7MM for next year and keep getting Aggie money. Although if I had 75 million coming my way over the coming number of years I’d probably just call myself retired.
Besides. wouldn’t it be another “buddy” hire since Dykes and Holgerson coached together at Tech?He's not, really. Art Briles developed this veer 'n shoot offense at Stephenville before he ever coached at the college level. It's true Briles and Holgerson coached under Leach, but not this offense. When he coached with Holgerson, they were running the Air Raid. Here's the coaching tree as of a few years ago. It now includes Joe Jon Finley and Josh Heupel at Tennessee, as well as Jeff Lebby.
For more: https://americaswargame.substack.com/p/the-veer-and-shoot-part-i#:~:text=It all originated with Art,after being fired amidst scandal.
Not directing this at you but let me get this straight, are we ok with “buddy” hires or are those not ok?
Sangria Wine
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It’s all we are gonna get so we betta get used to it fellas.
An-Cap Frog
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Looking forward to UH beating Baylor with Patterson at the helm.
BrewingFrog
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I would venture to say that the Elder Briles based his offense on the Jack Pardee/Mouse Davis Run and Shoot offense of the Houston Gamblers of the USFL, and later Pardee's UH "Point-A-Minute" offense with Andre Ware. None of these concepts are particularly new, they just get dusted off and carted out from time to time and are successful until somebody else makes an adjustment...He's not, really. Art Briles developed this veer 'n shoot offense at Stephenville before he ever coached at the college level. It's true Briles and Holgerson coached under Leach, but not this offense. When he coached with Holgerson, they were running the Air Raid. Here's the coaching tree as of a few years ago. It now includes Joe Jon Finley and Josh Heupel at Tennessee, as well as Jeff Lebby.
For more: https://americaswargame.substack.com/p/the-veer-and-shoot-part-i#:~:text=It all originated with Art,after being fired amidst scandal.
IMHO, the thing that made that UH offense so fabulous was having a string of really good QBs and WRs to run it. David Dacus, David Klingler, and Andre Ware were fabulous, but it was Ware who had the Magician's Touch of play-fakes that everybody bit on, or the naked bootleg that everybody bit on. Expert prestidigitation.
Sangria Wine
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Andre Ware was an awesome college football player!
Frog-in-law1995
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One of my best friends and college roommates (and now my cousin-in-law)…his dad - a former frog - was an offensive assistant on those Gamblers teams. Worked under June Jones before leaving to coach HS down in your neck of the woods. I’ve read everything I can about those teams. Fascinating stuff for football nerds. Wish I’d gotten to meet him but died in a car wreck before I met his boys.
This Ain't Chopped Liver
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Patterson won’t like the oppressive humidity in Houston.
