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FWST: Phil Bennett gives Baylor look of a contender

asleep003

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FWIW, Scout in its way too early predictions has Baylor finishing 3-9...


That's a bit of a puzzle... Bears return 14 starters and hired a D-coordinator(which was their primary weakness in 2010), that has had very good success as a D-coordinator... not to mention the Bears have a very athletic Sr. QB.?.
 

AggieAngst

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Seriously, you can't figure this out on yer own and you are "puzzled"? Tell me you aren't serious! I mean GEEZ do you even watch college football? Yikes!

Let's see if we can help you out of your fog -

1) NAME ONE BIG GAME AGAINST A.GOOD OPPONENT WHEH RG3 HASN'T LOOKED LIKE PURE MANURE

2) BAYLOR VERY LUCKILY WON 7 GAMES LAST YR - not by being a good football team - BUT BY BARELY BARELY SQUEEKING BY THE OTHER 3 TOTAL TURRRDDDS IN THEIR WEAK LEAGUE. BAYLOR WAS SIMPLY THE SHINIEST TURRRDDD IN THE TURRRDDD BOWL LAST YR - NOT A GOOD TEAM!

3) WHENEVER BAYLOR PLAYED ANY TEAM THAT WAS
EVEN HALFWAY DECENT THEY GOT PRISON RAPED AND HUMILIATED BY BLOWOUT SCORES.

4) PATTERSON HAS RG3's NUMBER AND KNOWS HOW TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD. EVEN WITH A FEW NEW FACES ON DEFENSE FOR TCU, RG3 IS IN VERY DEEP DOO DOO VS TCU AND HE KNOWS IT.

5) THE TCU DEFENSE WILL BE JUST AS GOOD THIS YR AS THEY WERE LAST YR AND RG3 COULD ONLY MANAGE 10 pts.

6) BAYLOR WILL NOT BEAT MIZZOU THIS YR NOR KANSAS ST. KSU IS VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN PUT UP HUGE NUMBERS ON OFFENSE. BAYLORS PITIFUL DEFENSE WILL BE HELPLESS AGAIN THIS YR.

7) BAYLOR LOST THEIR ONLY DECENT RB, lost their only 2 DECENT OLINEMEN, THEIR ONLY DECENT DT, AND THEIR ONE GOOD SAFETY. THEY DIDN'T IMPROVE! IF ANYTHING - THEY ARE WORSE OFF TALENT-WISE THIS YR.

8) BECAUSE OF THE NEW B12 SCHEDULING FORMAT BAYLOR WILL ONLY PLAY 3 NON CONF GAMES FROM NOW ON WHICH MEANS THEY LOSE ONE SURE WIN. They replace that sure win with Mizzou now- WHICH IS A SURE LOSS.

WITH SOME GREAT GOOD FORTUNE AND INCREDIBLE LUCK BAYLOR MIGHT WIN 5. Most likely just 3 however.

That's a bit of a puzzle... Bears return 14 starters and hired a D-coordinator(which was their primary weakness in 2010), that has had very good success as a D-coordinator... not to mention the Bears have a very athletic Sr. QB.?.
 

asleep003

Active Member
Seriously, you can't figure this out on yer own and you are "puzzled"? Tell me you aren't serious! I mean GEEZ do you even watch college football? Yikes!

Let's see if we can help you out of your fog -

1) NAME ONE BIG GAME AGAINST A.GOOD OPPONENT WHEH RG3 HASN'T LOKKED LIKE MANURE

2) BAYLOR VERY LUCKILY WON 7 GAMES LAST YR - not by being a good football team - BUT BY BARELY BARELY SQUEEKING BY THE OTHER 3 TOTAL TURRRTDDDS IN THEIR WEAK LEAGUE. BAYLOR WAS SIMPLY THE SHINIEST TURRRDDD IN THE TURRRDDD BOWL LAST YR - NOT A GOOD TRAM!

3) WHENEVER BAYLOY PLAYED ANY TRAM THAT WAS
EVEN HALFWAY DECENT THEY GOT PRISON RAPED AND HUMILIATED BY BLOWOUT SCORES.

4) PATTERSON HAS RG3's NUMBER AND KNOWS HOW TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD. EVEN WITH A FEW NEW FACES ON DEFENSE FOR TCU, RG3 IS IN VERY DEEP DOO DOO VS TCU AND HE KNOWS IT.

5) THE TCU DEFENSE WILL BE JUST AS GOOD THIS YR AS THEY WERE LAST YR AND RG3 COULD ONLY MANAGE 10 pts.

6) BAYLOR WILL NOT BEAT MIZZOU THIS YR NOR KANSAS ST. KSU IS VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN PUT UP HUGE NUMBERS ON OFFENSE. BAYLORS PITIFUL DEFENSE WILL BE HELPLESS AGAIN THIS YR.

7) BAYLOR LOST THEIR ONLY DECENT RB, lost their only 2 DEVENT OLINEMEN, THEIR ONLY DECENT DT, AND THEIR PNE GOOD SAFETY. THEY DIDN'T IMPROVE! IF ANYTHING - THEY ARE WORSE OFF TALENT WISE THIS YR.

8) BECAUSE OF THE NEW B12 SCHEDULING FORMAT BAYLOR WILL ONLY PLAY 3 NO CONF GAMES FROM NOW ON WHOCH MEANS THEY LOSE ONE SURE WON. they replace that sure win with Mizzou now- WHICH IS A SURE LOSS.

WITH SOME GREAT GOOD FORTUNE AND INCREDIBLE LICK BAYLOR MIGHT WIN 5. Most likely just 3 however.


Thanks for the organized/numbered responses with all the CAPS. But I'm just fine with my foggy take... cheers!
 

AggieAngst

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You do realize that the "new Baylor Def Coordinator" (who you think is fabulous) was one of the worst Head Coaches in the history of college football right?

You do realize that the "new Baylor Def Coordinator" (who you think is fabulous) allowed was fired after winning just ONE GAME his final yr at SMU. His defense at SMU got completely azzzzclowned by those powerhouse football teams such as - RICE, UAB, MARSHALL, MEMPHIS, and UTEP !!

You do realize that Bennett's job wasnt really that hard at SMU, and Bennett's successor very quickly took SMU to 7-8 wins and consecutive bowl games, as soon as Bennett left.

You do realize that at PITT, Bennett's defense was so bad that the entire coaching staff was fired. When PITT and the coaching staff really needed some great defense to salvage the season, Bennett's defense allowed a very weak UCONN team to own PITT, as PITT fell to a horrid 5 losses in the weakest Big East in decades.

You do realize that in the final game of the year, when the PITT coaching staff might have been able to salvage their jobs, Bennett's defense allowed a very average and mediocre WEST VIRGINIA team to put up a huge number on the score board, humiliating PITT so badly, the AD fired the entire staff.

You do realize that Bennett put out feelers to over 75 colleges when he got fired at PITT and only two responded (BAYLOR and TTECH, but TTECH never made him an offer)

You do realize that BAYLOR was the one and only team in the country who made an offer to Bennett - nobody else wanted him

You do realize that BAYLOR fans would get excited if ART BRILES hired his grandmother as Def Coordinator - they are that desperate

You do realize that Bennett isnt going to change the smelly stinking mess of a defense that is called BAYLOR right? He aint a miracle worker by any stretch !!

You do realize that the biggest joke in college football this year is that "THE BAYLOR DEFENSE IS MUCH IMPROVED"

You do realize BAYLOR lost its one and only good DT, and its one and only decent SAFETY, right? And they got nobody to step in.

You do realize that BAYLOR had the worst pass rush in the entire nation last year, right? As in - DEAD LAST IN ALL OF DIV 1 FOOTBALL !!

You do realize that BAYLOR has the perhaps the worst talent at CORNERBACK than any college in Div 1 football right? The BAYLOR CBs are absolutely pathetic !! And their LBs and DEs arent much better !

You do realize that BAYLOR had the fewest sacks of any football team in the country, right? In other words, BAYLOR HAD THE WORST PASS RUSH IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL LAST YEAR - and all those stinkers are back again this year, minus the best DT they have had in a decade.

You do realize that BAYLOR was favored, but pooped the field in epic fashion, and lost by a blowout score to the 7th place team from another league in their bowl game right?

You do realize that BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN was so horribly stininking bad in the bowl game, that his own Baylor fans thought he should be benched at halftime for the rest of the game. You do know that right?

You do know that BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN has pooped the field, and humiliated himself and the team, in EVERY SINGLE BIG GAME against a good team for his entire career - in other words HE HAS NEVER EVER PLAYED WORTH TWO DRY FARRRRRTTTTS against a good team. In other words he is all mouth.

You do realize that BAYLOR is very likely to be MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE this yr than they were last. Only a dope or a Baylor fan thinks they will be better.
 

Sammy11

Member
You do know that BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN has pooped the field, and humiliated himself and the team, in EVERY SINGLE BIG GAME against a good team for his entire career - in other words HE HAS NEVER EVER PLAYED WORTH TWO DRY FARRRRRTTTTS against a good team. In other words he is all mouth.

Fact check ag-

Baylor offense vs A&M 2010:
30 points
500 yards
73% completions
6 yards per carry

(Also dropped 500 on A&M in 08 but that aggie team sucked)

BU Offense vs 11-2 Texas Tech in 08:
28 Points
75% completions
over 5 per carry


2008 vs Mizzou
438 yards
74.29%
28 points

2008 @ Nebraska & Suh
6.5 per carry
20 points
6.6 per play



You can say a lot of things about Baylor & RG3 but he has had some good performances to go with the bad. Defense is another story so far...
 

Army Frog Fan

Active Member
Moving to Thursday is great for the frogs. Gives them 2 extra days to look at the AF triple option. I like it. And I will be there on that Thursday to root for the good guys!!
 

BaldingBear

Active Member
That's a bit of a puzzle... Bears return 14 starters and hired a D-coordinator(which was their primary weakness in 2010), that has had very good success as a D-coordinator... not to mention the Bears have a very athletic Sr. QB.?.
Hopefully Baylor will be better than last year when they were basically mediocre. A little improvement in offense and a noticeable improvement in defense is what i'm expecting; if those two things work out then Baylor might actually be a decent team, maybe even give TCU somewhat of a test, maybe since it is in Waco.
And RG3 will be a redshirt Jr (his 4th year) so he's sorta a Sr Mistletoad.
 

asleep003

Active Member
You do realize that the "new Baylor Def Coordinator" (who you think is fabulous) was one of the worst Head Coaches in the history of college football right?

You do realize that the "new Baylor Def Coordinator" (who you think is fabulous) allowed was fired after winning just ONE GAME his final yr at SMU. His defense at SMU got completely azzzzclowned by those powerhouse football teams such as - RICE, UAB, MARSHALL, MEMPHIS, and UTEP !!

You do realize that Bennett's job wasnt really that hard at SMU, and Bennett's successor very quickly took SMU to 7-8 wins and consecutive bowl games, as soon as Bennett left.

You do realize that at PITT, Bennett's defense was so bad that the entire coaching staff was fired. When PITT and the coaching staff really needed some great defense to salvage the season, Bennett's defense allowed a very weak UCONN team to own PITT, as PITT fell to a horrid 5 losses in the weakest Big East in decades.

You do realize that in the final game of the year, when the PITT coaching staff might have been able to salvage their jobs, Bennett's defense allowed a very average and mediocre WEST VIRGINIA team to put up a huge number on the score board, humiliating PITT so badly, the AD fired the entire staff.

You do realize that Bennett put out feelers to over 75 colleges when he got fired at PITT and only two responded (BAYLOR and TTECH, but TTECH never made him an offer)

You do realize that BAYLOR was the one and only team in the country who made an offer to Bennett - nobody else wanted him

You do realize that BAYLOR fans would get excited if ART BRILES hired his grandmother as Def Coordinator - they are that desperate

You do realize that Bennett isnt going to change the smelly stinking mess of a defense that is called BAYLOR right? He aint a miracle worker by any stretch !!

You do realize that the biggest joke in college football this year is that "THE BAYLOR DEFENSE IS MUCH IMPROVED"

You do realize BAYLOR lost its one and only good DT, and its one and only decent SAFETY, right? And they got nobody to step in.

You do realize that BAYLOR had the worst pass rush in the entire nation last year, right? As in - DEAD LAST IN ALL OF DIV 1 FOOTBALL !!

You do realize that BAYLOR has the perhaps the worst talent at CORNERBACK than any college in Div 1 football right? The BAYLOR CBs are absolutely pathetic !! And their LBs and DEs arent much better !

You do realize that BAYLOR had the fewest sacks of any football team in the country, right? In other words, BAYLOR HAD THE WORST PASS RUSH IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL LAST YEAR - and all those stinkers are back again this year, minus the best DT they have had in a decade.

You do realize that BAYLOR was favored, but pooped the field in epic fashion, and lost by a blowout score to the 7th place team from another league in their bowl game right?

You do realize that BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN was so horribly stininking bad in the bowl game, that his own Baylor fans thought he should be benched at halftime for the rest of the game. You do know that right?

You do know that BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN has pooped the field, and humiliated himself and the team, in EVERY SINGLE BIG GAME against a good team for his entire career - in other words HE HAS NEVER EVER PLAYED WORTH TWO DRY FARRRRRTTTTS against a good team. In other words he is all mouth.

You do realize that BAYLOR is very likely to be MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE this yr than they were last. Only a dope or a Baylor fan thinks they will be better.

AggieAngst..... Please, tell me how you really feel ... please!
 

AggieAngst

New Member
BB -

Seriously dude, what are you smokin? Are all Baylor fans this dense?

Do you recall your claim last season (and the season before) about how Baylor was "very much improved" then, and how RG3 was so "unstoppable" as TCU won 27-0, and then 45-10? If I were you I wouldnt say such idiotic things again until Gaylor can at least be respectable and more than the national laughingstock of all of college football.
Seriously, BB, RG3 is is a joke. Your team is a joke and your fans are a joke. Just the name "Baylor" brings chuckles and laughter from college football fans all across America. Gaylor is and has been for the past 20 yrs - the laughinstock team of college football.

Please let us know when you can be competitive with a sorry-azzzz team like ILLINOIS before you start talking like a fool to the Rose Bowl Champions. Geeez what a ninny !!



In the meantime, please entertain us with uproarious laughter as you answer the following questions:

1) How does Baylor "improve" their offense vs TCU when they only scored 10 pts vs the Frogs defense last year, and this yr the Bears go up against the fabulous TCU defense without Baylor's best OLineman, without their only decent RB, without their only good TE, and with a QB who looked like manure in the bowl game, against another weak conference's 6th place team. You call that "improved"? Based on what exactly?


2) How does Baylor "improve their offense" against the current TCU defensive line that Frog Coach Gary Patterson is calling "more talented and more impressive than last year's great Rose Bowl Championship DLIne". The TCU DLine and LBs will be very very intimidating this season. Unlike Baylor, the TCU DLine gives opposing QBs about 1 second to throw the ball before the QB is crushed by one of the best DLine pass rushes in college football.


3) How does Baylor "improve their offense" against TCU's returning LBs who were both All Americans last yr are both preseason All-Americans for this yr?


4) How does Baylor "improve their offense" against a TCU DE who was the Conf Def Player of the Year, a Freshman All American and the best young college DE in the nation. His name is STAN MAPONGA and he was a national sensation last yr with his lightening fast pass rush. Future NFL linemen on the Big 10 Champion WISCONSIN team could not contain MAPONGA in the Rose Bowl Game. MAPONGA's DE counterpart on the other side is 6'6"/275 lb BRAYLON BROUGHTON who is extremely athletic for his size. Good luck trying to run the ball against those guys !!


5) How does the worst defense in all of college football last year "suddenly and magically" become "good" (after looking like doggie poop in bowl game vs a lousy team) in just a 4 month time period, after losing their best DT, their two best CBs, their only good SAFETY, and their only decent LBs?



Hopefully Baylor will be better than last year when they were basically mediocre. A little improvement in offense and a noticeable improvement in defense is what i'm expecting; if those two things work out then Baylor might actually be a decent team, maybe even give TCU somewhat of a test, maybe since it is in Waco.
And RG3 will be a redshirt Jr (his 4th year) so he's sorta a Sr Mistletoad.
 

AggieAngst

New Member
6) How does the team (Baylor) who had the second worst defensive pass rushing stats in all of college football, "suddenly and magically" get a great pass rush just a few short months after pooping the field and producing no pass rush at all in the Baylor Bowl Game against a sorry team?

7) How was Baylor a "good team" last yr when all they did is beat the turrrdddds of the Big 12? Any even halfway decent team Baylor played last yr they lost to (Tcu, Illinois, Okie St, Ou, etc) and Baylor even lost to some really crappy teams (TTech, A&M).

8) If Baylor is soooo good, how is it that the first prediction of Baylor's season for this year stated that "Baylor will most likely win just 4 games this coming season"?

9) How is that Baylor is "improved" when most all college sportswriters think Baylor will not return to a Bowl Game this year? (due to the new Big 12 scheduling Baylor can only play 3 non-conf games from now on, which means Baylor is giving up one sure win each year from here out. Baylor also was forced to add Missouri, which will be a sure loss. Therefore Baylor lost one win and gained one loss from last yr's schedule, which would have put them at 6-6 last year (just barely bowl eligible). Baylor's had three very lucky wins vs three Big 12 teams last year where Baylor BARELY beat those teams. They wont be as lucky again this year, as KANSAS ST is very much improved and very dangerous, and TEXAS losing to Baylor wont happen again for the next 30 years. Putting Baylor once again, at 4 wins. which is exactly what sportswriters are predicting.

10) How is it that you and the Baylor fans still dont understand that TCU' Coach Patterson has RG3's number and Griffin is never gonna do jack squat against a Patterson coached defense? How can you folks be so dense?

11) How is it that you "forgot" to mention that your Head Coach is 0-5 in bowl games in his career, and was completely confused, bewildered and clueless during last year's legendary 45-10 beatdown by TCU? Even your own fans saw BRILES's "deer in the headlights look" and saw him just give up on the sideline, with no clue what to do about the embarrassing and humiliating carnage.

12) How is it that your players were so docile, quiet, and accepting of that terribly insulting TCU fan who screamed "WAY TO GO BIG 12" right in the face of all your players as they walked up the ramp? Kind of like your players accepted and understood their suckage.

TCU - BAYLOR SCORE PREDICTION FOR THIS YEAR -

TCU 38


BAYLOR 14

(way to go Big 12 !)
 

asleep003

Active Member
AggieAngst... have you ever ever considered the possibility that you just might possibly have a teensy weensy tiny bit of an anger issue.?.
Cheers!
 

AggieAngst

New Member
Baylor loses one of it's non-conf wins this season (they are only allowed to play 3 non-conf games instead of their usual 4).

They also have to add Mizzou to their schedule (certain loss).

Baylor also BARELY BARELY beat Kansas St last season. KSU is on a huge upswing. Baylor wont be as lucky this season, and will lose to Ksu this time.

TEXAS will not lose to the bumbling stumbling Gaylor CareBears again in this century. Baylor had their ONE WIN vs TEXAS for the next 3 decades. You can count on Baylor losing big to the LongHorns this year.

And as usual, Baylor will go 0-fer in the Big 12 South Division, and will lose to everyone in that Division as they always do, along with getting embarrassed and humiliated and displayed to the entire nation as a pretender and a complete laughingstock in the TCU game.

Add it all up and you get a very best case scenario of 5 wins. More likely just 4 however.

Not a chance Baylor gets 7 wins again this coming season. Not with losing a non-conf game and adding Mizzou (and losing to TEXAS). Not gonna happen. Not a chance in haiti for Baylor to go bowling. The CareBears had their one bowl game in two decades and they BLEW IT BIGTIME and pooped the field in front of a national TV audience in their bowl.

Back to decades and decades of suckage for the CareBears now.
 

AggieAngst

New Member
Anger ? Blahahahahahahahahaaaa !! That's funny.

No anger at all.

Just tired of hearing from some you Baylor apologists and Baylor promoters about how Baylor is "soooo incredibly improved" (based on nothing).

Just 3 months after they pooped the bed against a really lousy team in their Bowl game, some of you think Baylor has magically and miraculously become "good", just because their retarded fans think so.

Some of you are almost as comical and funny as Baylor football !!

latest Baylor season prediction by national sportswriter = 4-8

Score prediction for Tcu - Baylor game = Tcu 38 - Baylor 14
 

AggieAngst

New Member
The things that Baylor fans, players and Coaches will learn really really quicky in their first game vs Tcu when the Baylor fans, players and Coaches leave the field after having been azzzzclowned and totally humiliated yet again by the Frogs -

1) Bennett aint the answer at Def Coord and he aint no miracle worker !! His pathetic 1-11 coaching record at SMU (that got him fired there) was no fluke !!

2) Patterson has Robt Griffin's number and it dont matter who the TCU defensive personnel are, because Patterson knows defense and he knows how to frustrate RG3 terribly.

3) There is a reason TCU is the Rose Bowl Champion and # 2 in the nation - and Baylor got their pants pulled down on national TV in their bowl game, by a lousy unranked ILLINOIS team.

4) Baylor isnt "improved". They were merely "lucky as all get out" last year when they BARELY BARELY beat the 3 other worst bottom feeder turrrrddd teams in the Big 12.

5) BAYLOR QB GRIFFIN is tremendously overrated and only plays well against crap teams. Anytime he is up against a good team in an important game he poops the field every single time.

6) Baylor's defense is still a pile of manure.

7) Baylor is still the national laughingstock especially since the TCU game will be nationally televised on ESPN !! Hilarious !! The entire national TV audience will be able to say "same ol laughingstock Baylor", after Baylor is made to look like little pinkie girlie girls again by TCU.

8) BRILES aint the answer as Head Coach. He is clueless and lost on the sidelines (as he was last yr in the TCU game). He has no idea what to do when things go sideways, and his "deer in the headlights" expression will be seen on national TV. Hilarious stuff !! Cant wait for this game !!

9) Baylor has no running game after losing Finley. Finley is the only halfway decent RB that Baylor has had in the past 20 yrs. Salubi and Gannaway are stinky horrid RBs. Gannaway is too slow to hit the hole and Sulubi is the fumble King !! Neither of them are DIv 1 college RBs. Both should be playing at Prarie View A&M or West Arkansas Tech. This will be a HOOT to watch those two STOOGES try to run the ball against TCU !! Cant wait !!

10) All you have to do to beat the Baylor offense and shut them completely down (as TCU did last yr), is to shut off the pass. Baylor cant run the ball and they are one-dimensional on offense. Shut down the pass, and Baylor is SCREWED !!

TCU - BAYLOR SCORE PREDICTION


TCU 38
BAYLOR 14
 

Frog-in-law1995

Active Member
In the meantime, please entertain us with uproarious laughter as you answer the following questions:

1) How does Baylor "improve" their offense vs TCU when they only scored 10 pts vs the Frogs defense last year, and this yr the Bears go up against the fabulous TCU defense without Baylor's best OLineman, without their only decent RB, without their only good TE, and with a QB who looked like manure in the bowl game, against another weak conference's 6th place team. You call that "improved"? Based on what exactly?



TCU - BAYLOR SCORE PREDICTION


TCU 38
BAYLOR 14

So the Baylor offense won't improve against TCU...they'll just score more points. Gotcha.
 

toadallytexan

ToadallyTexan
Yep. This game won't be easy. New QB. Away game. Playing a team out for revenge. RGIII (good qb despite the mockery on this site). First game of the year.

Just win by one...

In ESPN's interview with Coch GP, Chris Fowler mentioned these very things. GP agreed, and added that following this opener with a roadie to AFA, "will show the nation early what the Frogs are made of" ... so, the main guy that counts around here, aint takin' these 2011 Bears nearly as lightly as some posters hereon...just sayin'.
 
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