Cowboys Stadium Not Ready for Super Bowl
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Delmonico
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They interviewed one of the displaced 400 on the radio this morning. The refund was never offered as an option. They were told at the time if we can't seat you, tough luck.
Delmonico
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That may be, but it wasn't the NFL trying to stuff seats into every nook and cranny. That's one the venue operator - and that's Jerry.
angelo's frog
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Probably but if you read the back of the ticket, I'm sure those people agreed to give up their first born child to the NFL no questions asked. I can almost guarantee you they have waived every conceivable right. The attorneys will have to be very creative to get around it. Not saying it can't be done, but it won't be easy by any stretch of the imagination.
Yeah, they were. The NFL wants all that flash and cash just as much as Jerry. They bought in and they signed off.
The American people give the NFL way too much credit, mostly because they keep showing pictures of old guys wearing hats to make it seem classier.
Look! There's an old man with a hat on from the 1930's! Oh, it is Art Rooney! Look, there's Papa Bear Halas! He's wearing a hat! There's Tom Landry's hat on the freeway wall!
gohornedfrogs
Tier 1
Delmonico
Semi-Omnipotent Being
You're trying to make it sound like Jerry flipped the keys to Roger Goddell on the 30th (NFL only has control for one week prior, not 2, and one week after) and said 'just make sure you lock up when you're done'. NFL may have had 'control' in the last week, but everything that happened - good and bad - is the result of weeks, months and years of planning and effort, including construction, which began before the NFL moved in, and certainly wasn't their idea to begin with. It was all part of the bid that the locals sold the NFL on. It was Jerry (and the host committee) who went to the NFL to sell them on the idea of counting the people watching on TV in the plazas, among other things. Because he wanted the attendance record for his stadium. The NFL couldn't care less about the record. If you accept the idea that the NFL truly controls 'everything' then you must accept the fact that the host committee (and Jerry) was really just for show.
Now you're just trying to pile on Jerry. You know the NFL wants the record. They want more, more, more.
If Jerry had had his way, I guarantee you they would have set the record.
The NFL has a love hate relationship with Jerry. They like all the extra cash and all his ideas, but they want to remain above it while cashing the checks.
Jerry did have to back off. Steven said so and I believe him.
Trelvis
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http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=6098112
"The fire marshal did not step in late, neither did the police. They were there with us every step of the way. We were in consultation with them. We were in agreement with them. There were no disputes. Everybody was looking at it the same way. In fact, what they did helped us gain time to try to get it done, and at the end, we just ran out of time."
NFL has had control of the stadium since January 8th just FYI.
Instead of spinning, the locals should be purchasing a ton of salt to replace the dirt they threw down on the roads in case they get the 2015 bid. Jerry and whoever else was behind this should also permanently shelve any other ideas of trying to artificially break a Super Bowl attendance record with temporary seating. Putting up unusable seats is something that happens at Robertson Stadium when they try to cram more Longhorn fans in a high school stadium. It should never happen at Jerry's place, and certainly not for the Super Bowl. The NFL has been able to pull off many Super Bowls prior to this one. Anyone who thinks Jerry and his people aren't at least partially at fault for some of these things are probably Cowboy fans.
Any feedback on TCU and the Steelers using our facilities? From what I've heard, it was good. But haven't heard too much.
Any feedback on TCU and the Steelers using our facilities? From what I've heard, it was good. But haven't heard too much.
gohornedfrogs
Tier 1
That might be the case, but as RSF pointed out, the plans for the extra seating areas have been in the works for months, and probably even a year or more. These kinds of decisions are not made in the vacuum of the NFL headquarters 1,500 miles away. The NFL is not a dictatorship -- they realize that they have a valuable partner in Jerry Jones, and they would not take the chance of coming into his house (a house he raised more than a billion dollars to build) and making he and his staff mad. They would have nothing to gain by doing that.
Back to the planning...in their advance meetings, they would have met with "Jones" people who manage the stadium to get their input and approval on nearly everything. It's their property, so nobody knows it better, and it's only good business sense to have them involved. There are literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of details that go into modifying a structure like that to prepare for additional seating. The NFL couldn't answer all of the questions without the stadium staff being available.
Trelvis
Active Member
At the end of the day, the NFL had to approve everything, or we can just continue to over look the facts and blame Jerry.
gohornedfrogs
Tier 1
That's right. There's plenty of blame to go around. Both the NFL and JJ's management team can share in it.
PurpleBlood87
Active Member
NFL admits it was its fault.
Seating Problem
Grubman said issues arose with the “final installation of railings, of tightening risers, steps, things of that nature—and that’s what did not get completed at the end.”
The league, Grubman said, “felt in the middle of the week that it was going to be a problem. We did not feel until the game day that we had an issue where … there was a distinct possibility that we wouldn’t be able to accommodate fans.”
He said final work on the temporary sections was done Sunday afternoon.
In the coming weeks, the NFL will review what happened to figure out what went wrong.
Asked whether Cowboys owner Jerry Jones or local organizers were at fault for the seating issues, Goodell said: “No. We put on this event. This is the responsibility of the NFL.”
Seating Problem
Grubman said issues arose with the “final installation of railings, of tightening risers, steps, things of that nature—and that’s what did not get completed at the end.”
The league, Grubman said, “felt in the middle of the week that it was going to be a problem. We did not feel until the game day that we had an issue where … there was a distinct possibility that we wouldn’t be able to accommodate fans.”
He said final work on the temporary sections was done Sunday afternoon.
In the coming weeks, the NFL will review what happened to figure out what went wrong.
Asked whether Cowboys owner Jerry Jones or local organizers were at fault for the seating issues, Goodell said: “No. We put on this event. This is the responsibility of the NFL.”
gohornedfrogs
Tier 1
Quite admirable for Goodell to say this.
I think they are falling on the sword in order to protect Jones to some extent. Jones is the one with the most to lose since maintaining goodwill in the community is more important to him than it is to the NFL brand in any single market.
