Cancel the SMU series
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allclearforfrogs
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It's always pissed me off that we keep that game on our schedule. I think some older alums might be influencing it.
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Froggy Bottom
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I understand where y’all are coming from.
But I also think y’all were not around for the death of the SWC and how it felt to be left behind as UT, Arkansas and A&M declared themselves too good for the likes of TCU and that 7+ decades of rivalry and tradition meant nothing.
You can disagree but I hope the day hasn’t come when we too become part of the problem with college football and abandon a long standing traditional cross town rivalry because we feel we’ve become too good for it.
Just my 2 cents
But I also think y’all were not around for the death of the SWC and how it felt to be left behind as UT, Arkansas and A&M declared themselves too good for the likes of TCU and that 7+ decades of rivalry and tradition meant nothing.
You can disagree but I hope the day hasn’t come when we too become part of the problem with college football and abandon a long standing traditional cross town rivalry because we feel we’ve become too good for it.
Just my 2 cents
Big Frog II
Active Member
After last year's stadium debacle, I don't care if we play them either. I think I am still dehydrated from that game.
TopFrog
Lifelong Frog
Agree. I wouldn't call it a warm up game. It is a rivalry and once every decade they manage to pull off the upset. Keep this. Drop the truly worthless FCS game.
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Chongo94
Active Member
+1
I’m all for keeping rivalries and tying into history as much as possible but this one is one that needs to be laid to rest post haste.
It hasn’t been really, TRULY relevant in over 80-90 years. When SMU was great in the SWC in the 70s and 80s, TCU wasn’t. When TCU was ok in the 50s, SMU stunk.
Aside from the last four years or so, You have to go back to the 1930s to find a time where both schools were pretty good and relevant at the same time. What on god’s green earth are some of y’all holding onto this series for??
I’m all for keeping rivalries and tying into history as much as possible but this one is one that needs to be laid to rest post haste.
It hasn’t been really, TRULY relevant in over 80-90 years. When SMU was great in the SWC in the 70s and 80s, TCU wasn’t. When TCU was ok in the 50s, SMU stunk.
Aside from the last four years or so, You have to go back to the 1930s to find a time where both schools were pretty good and relevant at the same time. What on god’s green earth are some of y’all holding onto this series for??
Frognosticator
Tier 1
The SMU game is great for both universities. Ending it would be a mistake
Chongo94
Active Member
An-Cap Frog
Member
In 2024 we will play @ 2 Pac-12 schools in our non-con...Stanford and SMU. That's 2 group of five games.
froglash88
Full Member
Ok
But I’m not sure I have the authority to do that.
But I’m not sure I have the authority to do that.
RufeBruton
Active Member
Keep smew, drop Ann Richards U
Sangria Wine
Active Member
I’d keep the series but not play at SMU. Either play every year at TCU or every other year at TCU. I see no reason to ever play at their place until they significantly enhance their program by investing money AND winning games.
arlingtonbell
Active Member
Right? They ran out of water before halftime on a triple digit day how minor league is that?
Putt4Purple
Active Member
The solution is for SMU to host at another venue. That in and of itself is another topic IF agreed to. Where? Should SMU start hosting at the Cotton Bowl again? Certainly not in Arlington. Frisco at the soccer complex? Just throwing it out there!!
Go Frogs!
Prince of Purpoole II
Reigning Smartarse
That game completed my 180 on playing SMU. No more
Horned Frog Country
Full Member
I’m all for keeping the series to where any home game at SMU is played at night or the game is canceled. It’s a miracle that someone did not die from a heat stroke that last game due to not being able get water in the second half of the game.
PurpleSouthpaw
Active Member
This same topic came up on the 247 HornedFrogBlitz board. I responded vehemently why we keep the game unless it is absolutely necessary to get rid of it for scheduling purposes.
The gist of my points are as follows:
1) Rivalries operate outside of current relevancy and competitiveness. For example, Ohio St. vs Michigan (The Game) which is considered arguably the best rivalry in all CFB, has the exact same record as the Iron Skillet since 2011. So should that rivalry stop being played as well? To say otherwise would mean that SMU should have dropped the game back in the 80's when we sucked and they were the Pony Express. Dropping it because we think the game is beneath us is incredible arrogant, and makes our fanbase look like asshol es. Time is irrelevant, because nobody knows what each program will look like in 20 years.
2) The fact that we have this discussion almost every season really makes the point of how much of a rivalry it truly is. The game matters because of the history, because it has a name and a legacy, because it's Dallas vs Fort Worth. Baylor is the competitive rivalry we have, SMU is the historic one.
Be grateful for where TCU is while still respecting where we came from. I don't want the growth of arrogance in our fanbase because of our success. We are a small private school that has achieved way more than many teams that have way more resources than us in the last 2 decades. This is because we have constantly kept the chip-on-our-shoulder mentality and remained hunger/humble with success.
The gist of my points are as follows:
1) Rivalries operate outside of current relevancy and competitiveness. For example, Ohio St. vs Michigan (The Game) which is considered arguably the best rivalry in all CFB, has the exact same record as the Iron Skillet since 2011. So should that rivalry stop being played as well? To say otherwise would mean that SMU should have dropped the game back in the 80's when we sucked and they were the Pony Express. Dropping it because we think the game is beneath us is incredible arrogant, and makes our fanbase look like asshol es. Time is irrelevant, because nobody knows what each program will look like in 20 years.
2) The fact that we have this discussion almost every season really makes the point of how much of a rivalry it truly is. The game matters because of the history, because it has a name and a legacy, because it's Dallas vs Fort Worth. Baylor is the competitive rivalry we have, SMU is the historic one.
Be grateful for where TCU is while still respecting where we came from. I don't want the growth of arrogance in our fanbase because of our success. We are a small private school that has achieved way more than many teams that have way more resources than us in the last 2 decades. This is because we have constantly kept the chip-on-our-shoulder mentality and remained hunger/humble with success.
