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BYU's Honor Code - Everybody on their band wagon
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<blockquote data-quote="gatorfrog" data-source="post: 791577" data-attributes="member: 2866"><p>It's a stupid, horrible rule to try to force 18-22 year olds to follow. it's even stupider to mete out the punishments that BYU does for failings that are utterly human (Setting up to fail? Using guilt as an motivational tool?), and the stupidest thing at all is the fact that many of these kids are pressured to attend for religious reasons without being seriously offered an alternative.</p><p></p><p>The thing worth talking about is not that <em>this</em> BYU player or <em>that</em> BYU player was kicked off his team; the thing worth talking about is that BYU has this policy to begin with. The arguments about consistency are not wrong, but miss the larger point, IMHO. BYU is a different type of school, and one can argue it doesn't exist to serve its students' best interests. If TCU were in a conference with Bob Jones U or Liberty U, I think we'd be having similar discussions about them.</p><p></p><p>And when you have an "honor" code this strict and this devastating, its mere existence becomes evidence of an insitution's self-righteousness. The sort of self-righteousness that will lead a conference member to actively take steps that harm its fellow institutions to serve its own interests, apart from simply depriving those conference mates of the chance to compete against it.</p><p></p><p>BYU sets itself up as a beacon on a hill and shouldn't be surprised when people comment on the sludge flowing downhill from it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gatorfrog, post: 791577, member: 2866"] It's a stupid, horrible rule to try to force 18-22 year olds to follow. it's even stupider to mete out the punishments that BYU does for failings that are utterly human (Setting up to fail? Using guilt as an motivational tool?), and the stupidest thing at all is the fact that many of these kids are pressured to attend for religious reasons without being seriously offered an alternative. The thing worth talking about is not that [i]this[/i] BYU player or [i]that[/i] BYU player was kicked off his team; the thing worth talking about is that BYU has this policy to begin with. The arguments about consistency are not wrong, but miss the larger point, IMHO. BYU is a different type of school, and one can argue it doesn't exist to serve its students' best interests. If TCU were in a conference with Bob Jones U or Liberty U, I think we'd be having similar discussions about them. And when you have an "honor" code this strict and this devastating, its mere existence becomes evidence of an insitution's self-righteousness. The sort of self-righteousness that will lead a conference member to actively take steps that harm its fellow institutions to serve its own interests, apart from simply depriving those conference mates of the chance to compete against it. BYU sets itself up as a beacon on a hill and shouldn't be surprised when people comment on the sludge flowing downhill from it. [/QUOTE]
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