Boise State in trouble....
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Frog Attack II
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They aren't in the Big 10 or the SEC, so they likely will get the death penalty.
East Coast
Tier 1
The women's tennis violations are pretty severe - including letting an athlete compete before she was even enrolled as a student.
Opintel
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If true, that's serious as can be. Fire the coaches responsible, punish the program with smaller numbers of schollys. More than that is overkill, in my opinion.
RaiderHater
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Typical NCAA rules.
Worrying about athletes who get a couch to sleep on and are given free a large pepperoni pizza, but ignore clear evidence that a football star's dad is shopping him around for $200,000.
Worrying about athletes who get a couch to sleep on and are given free a large pepperoni pizza, but ignore clear evidence that a football star's dad is shopping him around for $200,000.
Stiff Arm Frog
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In instances like this I am at a loss for words, and turn to what others have said. This reminds me of a quote by Bertrand Russell:
[font="Helvetica][size="2"]"Our great democracies still tend to think that a stupid man is more likely to be honest than a clever man, and our politicians take advantage of this prejudice by pretending to be even more stupid than nature has made them."[/size][/font]
fanatical frog
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Ain't that the truth.
Here's another thought.....on the one hand the "issues" at Auburn and Ohio State went unnoticed by the NCAA and were instead raised by sources outside the NCAA, internet chatter mostly and the chatter finally got loud enough it forced the NCAA to at least acknowledge.
On the other hand it appears the NCAA has spent some time in Boise sniffing around.
Two years ago there were three programs consistently making Delaney and crew nervous....Utah; TCU and Boise. Strange how suddenly two of the three found homes under the big tent......and now it looks like they want to take a club to the third.
JimSwinkLives!
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It doesn't matter who you are with regards to the women's tennis issue: providing benefits to and then letting a student-athlete compete for you who isn't even enrolled in your university is unthinkable. This, along with the other violations in the four other programs, led to the finding of a lack of institutional control, one of the most serious charges that the enforcement staff can levy against an institution. From the allegations contained in the article, the charge is warranted.
Limp Lizard
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Once again, as long as David Berst is associated with the NCAA, I will have serious misgivings about the integrity of that institution.
Pinkyfrog
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Actually it is quite thinkable, now having a player shopped around for 200 grand and then saying that o it's no big deal, that's worse. What do they mean by compete? Playing against other teams and counting that for the team is bad, but is it as bad as having a recruit play a couple of games against other players for fun if they want to? Or if there was a paperwork mistake that wasn't caught soon enough?
The "benefits" are all bologna, $9 a player/year is laughable, even the football players who got $15 a player/year is nothing, that's a couple of burgers a year...O NO!!! The HORROR!
BrewingFrog
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Does anyone here really think that the NCAA has any integrity left at all?
The revelation that they have had people sniffing around Boise for a couple of years now is staggering. If memory serves, one of the excuses the NCAA trotted out to explain their lack of effort in the many Auburn incidents was that they only had a small number of agents to do these investigations. So, in effect, the NCAA decided that detailing agents to get to the bottom of recruit sleeping arrangements and the strong possibility of free pepperoni pizza over the course of several years at Boise was far more important than $200K+ player auctions, free cash cards, etc.
The shame should descend upon the NCAA for this, but the Sportswriter Cognoscenti will continue to cover for them. It's a sickening symbiotic relationship...
The revelation that they have had people sniffing around Boise for a couple of years now is staggering. If memory serves, one of the excuses the NCAA trotted out to explain their lack of effort in the many Auburn incidents was that they only had a small number of agents to do these investigations. So, in effect, the NCAA decided that detailing agents to get to the bottom of recruit sleeping arrangements and the strong possibility of free pepperoni pizza over the course of several years at Boise was far more important than $200K+ player auctions, free cash cards, etc.
The shame should descend upon the NCAA for this, but the Sportswriter Cognoscenti will continue to cover for them. It's a sickening symbiotic relationship...
I'm confused; What integrity?
JimSwinkLives!
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Wrong. What they are referring to is that Boise let a student-athlete engage in outside competition against another institution prior to Boise's player being enrolled at Boise, which no institution should ever allow. There are several steps that a student-athlete has to go through to become certified eligible for outside competiton. Whether its initial eligibility or continuing eligibility, an institution has to have multiple administrators, both inside and outside of the athletic department, sign off on the eligibility of the student-athlete before they can engage in competition. This is not just some innocent "paperwork mistake." Which is why the enforcement staff found a lack of institutional control.
Pinkyfrog
Member
So one major thing? Hardly lack of institutional control, again they shuttled Cam Newton and Ohio State off to the side with much worse violations than allowing a student play too early in a sport few people care about (relative to football and basketball)
JimSwinkLives!
Active Member
Trust me, its a definite lack of instutional control when an institution is playing student-athletes that don't even attend that school. Its hardly a minor thing.
Frog DJ
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The amount of money spent is not what's bothersome, here.
If these minor incidents are ignored, the potential for much more egregious violations grows exponentially.
That's where lack of institutional control becomes a valid issue of considerable concern.
No doubt, the NCAA loathes to punish big-name programs like OSU and Auburn, but I don't think they relish sanctioning BSU, either.
However, it will be intriguing to see whether their enforcement techniques are applied with any measure of equality.
Like Brewing Frog, I won't be surprised if integrity is thrown out the window.
Go Frogs!
If these minor incidents are ignored, the potential for much more egregious violations grows exponentially.
That's where lack of institutional control becomes a valid issue of considerable concern.
No doubt, the NCAA loathes to punish big-name programs like OSU and Auburn, but I don't think they relish sanctioning BSU, either.
However, it will be intriguing to see whether their enforcement techniques are applied with any measure of equality.
Like Brewing Frog, I won't be surprised if integrity is thrown out the window.
Go Frogs!
