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2023 TCU Baseball Thread

Deep Purple

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So we had a pitch clock in both 4 hour games we played last weekend…
Both were very high-scoring games, which aren't the norm in baseball. Games with lots of scoring are going to naturally play slower than more routine games that zip through multiple innings with only 3-5 batters per team.

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FrogBall09

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Both were very high-scoring games, which aren't the norm in baseball. Games with lots of scoring are going to naturally play slower than more routine games that zip through multiple innings with only 3-5 batters per team.

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It’s funny how smart you think you are and yet you miss the point so often

As has already been publicly observed by several professional commentators and coaches - the pitch clock has done little if anything to change the time of college games -

as you just stated, high scoring games with multiple pitching changes take 4 hours

low scoring games with few pitching changes take slightly over 2 hours

The clock has shown it has zero material affect on either of those scenarios and actually to date is slowing the game because no one seems to agree on what “ready to hit” means

Maybe if you analyzed roster changes and how games are “called” by a coaching staff today vs the last 30 years, you would actually understand the fundamental difference that has caused longer games…

And realize the pitch clock is stupid and ineffective
 

Deep Purple

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It’s funny how smart you think you are and yet you miss the point so often
Wow. Apparently you think I'm smarter than I do. :p

As has already been publicly observed by several professional commentators and coaches - the pitch clock has done little if anything to change the time of college games -
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And realize the pitch clock is stupid and ineffective
Wrong and wrong. Some Minor Leagues had been using the pitch clock since 2014, and all of them since 2015.

"According to Major League Baseball, the pitch timer reduced nine-inning games by a whopping 25 minutes last year in the minors, from 3 hours, 3 minutes in 2021 to 2:38. And other stats like runs per game, batting average and the rate of hit batters were essentially unchanged."
(https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/mlbs-new-pitch-clock-will-affect-more-just-pitchers)


The pitch clock is too new to MLB and College Baseball to seriously gauge its effectiveness. Too short a time, too small a sample size. But in the Minors at least, the pitch clock has been VERY effective at shortening games.

low scoring games with few pitching changes take slightly over 2 hours
Wrong again. The average college game today is 3 hr 10 min and climbing. In MLB, it's slightly better -- 3 hr 3 min.
 
It’s funny how smart you think you are and yet you miss the point so often

As has already been publicly observed by several professional commentators and coaches - the pitch clock has done little if anything to change the time of college games -

as you just stated, high scoring games with multiple pitching changes take 4 hours

low scoring games with few pitching changes take slightly over 2 hours

The clock has shown it has zero material affect on either of those scenarios and actually to date is slowing the game because no one seems to agree on what “ready to hit” means

Maybe if you analyzed roster changes and how games are “called” by a coaching staff today vs the last 30 years, you would actually understand the fundamental difference that has caused longer games…

And realize the pitch clock is stupid and ineffective

So...
 

hometown frog

Active Member
Wrong and wrong. Some Minor Leagues had been using the pitch clock since 2014, and all of them since 2015.

"According to Major League Baseball, the pitch timer reduced nine-inning games by a whopping 25 minutes last year in the minors, from 3 hours, 3 minutes in 2021 to 2:38. And other stats like runs per game, batting average and the rate of hit batters were essentially unchanged."
(https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/mlbs-new-pitch-clock-will-affect-more-just-pitchers)


The pitch clock is too new to MLB and College Baseball to seriously gauge its effectiveness. Too short a time, too small a sample size. But in the Minors at least, the pitch clock has been VERY effective at shortening games.


Wrong again. The average college game today is 3 hr 10 min and climbing. In MLB, it's slightly better -- 3 hr 3 min.
Hey Deep there were many other pace of play changes made in the event years. So how much of that stated reduction in game time last year is actually tied to the pitch clock And how much is tied to any of the other changes finally settling in? While I won’t argue that the pitch clock will tend to reduce game time, I will argue just how much of a reduction it will actually create in the aggregate at the collegiate levels.
 
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