Athletic Business: Big 12 Mulls Criteria for Canceling, Postponing Games

[LVH]

Not to really disagree with you (I posted the same months ago), but I am super curious why/how other countries seemingly did come out of it with the virus virtually gone. Would be interested for insights from people who are actually going to post ideas/theories and not go straight political bashing

They are testing at a much much lower rate than we are. Also, its not an election year in those countries, so they have no motivation to manipulate or cook the books.

 

[BABYFACE]

Hardest hit will be students inline for scholarships in sports that aren't named Football, Basketball, or Baseball; Ivy League already shutting down many sports all together. The faculty pressuring these schools to remain closed are doing great harm to the future success of many students, primarily minorities.

Absolutely. I fear this will not be realized until it’s too late.

 

[Travis Trucks]

Absolutely. I fear this will not be realized until it’s too late.

Look at college towns like Tuscaloosa and College Station that heavily rely on the economic injection that is brought in from out of town each time they have a home game. Hotels, restaurants, and such. Lots of lost revenue for those towns

I work in an industry that relies heavily on both NFL and college football for revenue and its going to do a lot of damage if football is not played this year. Cancelling a season will do a lot more harm than just harm to the university athletic departments.

 

[LVH]

Because I got a flu vaccination.

I thought they were only 30% effective?

 

[BABYFACE]

Look at college towns like Tuscaloosa and College Station that heavily rely on the economic injection that is brought in from out of town each time they have a home game. Hotels, restaurants, and such. Lots of lost revenue for those towns

I work in an industry that relies heavily on both NFL and college football for revenue and its going to do a lot of damage if football is not played this year. Cancelling a season will do a lot more harm than just harm to the university athletic departments.

Agree wholeheartedly. Too many not understanding this yet.

 

[More Frogs the Better]

Hardest hit will be students inline for scholarships in sports that aren't named Football, Basketball, or Baseball; Ivy League already shutting down many sports all together. The faculty pressuring these schools to remain closed are doing great harm to the future success of many students, primarily minorities.

Not holding out too much hope but maybe there will come a day where it becomes generally realized that very little done by the left is predicated on any genuine concern for any of the groups they claim to champion but is about power for power’s sake and nothing more.

 

[LVH]

MLB Umpire Joe West:

The 67-year-old West said he doesn't believe the death total being attributed to the coronavirus -- which has surpassed 130,000 in the United States -- is an accurate figure.

"Those statistics aren't accurate, I don't care who's counting them,'' West told USA Today Sports. "When country music [singer] Joe Diffie died, they said he died of the coronavirus. He had Stage 4 lung cancer. The coronavirus may have accelerated his death, but let's be realistic.

Our system is so messed up they have emptied hospitals because there's no elective surgery. The government has been giving these hospitals extra money if someone dies of the coronavirus. So everybody that dies is because of coronavirus. I don't care if you get hit by a car, it's coronavirus.''

 

[Eight]

Not to really disagree with you (I posted the same months ago), but I am super curious why/how other countries seemingly did come out of it with the virus virtually gone. Would be interested for insights from people who are actually going to post ideas/theories and not go straight political bashing

a few variables to consider.

how many countries have a population of 330M people covering the land mass the size of the usa?

a few immediate names that pop up are china, russia, and brazil. no scheissing way i trust any of info coming from china or russia and brazil is having some issues.

second, unless you are new zealand and basically cut yourself off from the world every country that i can tell has had the experience of cases popping up with as they reopen their economy

third, do not underestimate the economic value to the medical community to patients being diagnosed positive with covid while in the hospital. i have been told by two people in hospital admins that this is known and this is encouraged in both their systems

finally, we have lost our freaking minds and balls and lets ourselves be held hostages by people afraid of everything and nothing. yes, the virus is contagious, yes people will get sick, and yes tragically some will die.

a little secret is we cant stop it and we can't hide from it.

call off fall sports, call off fall school, but get damn ready come jan 2021 when we still have covid, peope are still getting sick, people are still dying , and we still haven't come to terms with how little we truly control in this world

 

[Eight]

MLB Umpire Joe West:

not sure i would go with joe west in a quote about accuracy

 

[Travis Trucks]

Agree wholeheartedly. Too many not understanding this yet.

In my industry(broadcast television) many of the stations under my umbrella rely heavily on football for their Q4 budgets.

I have ABC stations in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Detroit that make bank on Ohio State/Michigan/Michigan State college football games. I also have the ABC in Waco that loves Big 12 football games.

I have NBC stations in Milwaukee and Green Bay that make a [ Finebaum ]load of money for Packers games. I have the NBC station in Kansas City that makes a ton off the Chiefs.

I have the CBS station in Nashville that brings in money on the Titans and SEC Football.

I have a FOX station in Grand Rapids that has both the Lions and Michigan/Michigan State.

I worked at a FOX station in Cedar Rapids, IA in 2015 and they got the Iowa State/Iowa game that year. The ad revenue for that game alone, as well as the locally produced pregame show, allowed them to double their Q3 budget target.

Just some examples. All these stations NEED football in Q4 for their budgets. And if you have no sympathy for the TV stations themselves, at least have sympathy for the salesmen at these stations who are going to lose a big portion of their commission income not being able to sell football. Or the advertisers who see a bump in their business by being able to advertise during football games or sponsoring football programming.

I have a quarterly bonus tied to revenue and meeting budgets. If there is no football, I can kiss my Q4 bonus goodbye. I already didn't get my Q2 bonus due to COVID.

This has far reaching impacts beyond university athletic department budgets. The common man is going to get hit as well.

 

[jake102]

a few variables to consider.

how many countries have a population of 330M people covering the land mass the size of the usa?

The land mass piece should theoretically be a positive for USA.... just curious why it's been so much worse for us than the big western European countries.

 

[Fosterpark Squatter]

 

[ftwfrog]

I thought they were only 30% effective?

Nah, that’s condoms.

 

[Eight]

The land mass piece should theoretically be a positive for USA.... just curious why it's been so much worse for us than the big western European countries.

break the states down by comparable size of countries in europe

in regards to the terms worse, in which way?

consider that the us with a population of roughly 330M has at this time has just under 133,000 deaths

the uk, italy, france, spain, and germany have roughly a combined population of 325M

you want to bet who has more deaths?

those 5 large western european countries have almost....ready for it......147,000 deaths

not sure how that is possible as we have been told we have handled this worse than anywhere else in the world, but if anyone wants to check the math here are a few links

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

i think you might also find these global trends on 5-day averages of interest

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new

 

[jake102]

the uk, italy, france, spain, and germany have roughly a combined population of 325M

you want to bet who has more deaths?

those 5 large western european countries have almost....ready for it......147,000 deaths

That's the information I was interested in. Thanks. Presents a really good case

 

[Bob Sugar]

a few variables to consider.

...

call off fall sports, call off fall school, but get damn ready come jan 2021 when we still have covid, peope are still getting sick, people are still dying , and we still haven't come to terms with how little we truly control in this world

No one died before COVID, you know this.

 

[Eight]

That's the information I was interested in. Thanks. Presents a really good case

welcome, i also think the uk truly hasn't opened up etc, but could be wrong

do know that when i went to a uk news site to read about f1 there were reports about......wait for it....brits who no longer were willing to stay cooped up and had flocked to the beach in droves

truly amazing the impact america has on the world i guess is the only explanation right?

 

[LVH]

In my industry(broadcast television) many of the stations under my umbrella rely heavily on football for their Q4 budgets.

I have ABC stations in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Detroit that make bank on Ohio State/Michigan/Michigan State college football games. I also have the ABC in Waco that loves Big 12 football games.

I have NBC stations in Milwaukee and Green Bay that make a [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ]load of money for Packers games. I have the NBC station in Kansas City that makes a ton off the Chiefs.

I have the CBS station in Nashville that brings in money on the Titans and SEC Football.

I have a FOX station in Grand Rapids that has both the Lions and Michigan/Michigan State.

I worked at a FOX station in Cedar Rapids, IA in 2015 and they got the Iowa State/Iowa game that year. The ad revenue for that game alone, as well as the locally produced pregame show, allowed them to double their Q3 budget target.

Just some examples. All these stations NEED football in Q4 for their budgets. And if you have no sympathy for the TV stations themselves, at least have sympathy for the salesmen at these stations who are going to lose a big portion of their commission income not being able to sell football. Or the advertisers who see a bump in their business by being able to advertise during football games or sponsoring football programming.

I have a quarterly bonus tied to revenue and meeting budgets. If there is no football, I can kiss my Q4 bonus goodbye. I already didn't get my Q2 bonus due to COVID.

This has far reaching impacts beyond university athletic department budgets. The common man is going to get hit as well.

Las Vegas will get hit hard with no football... all this money invested in the Raiders, plus all the sportsbooks and casinos that love the foot traffic that football brings them on the weekends. If you have never been to the Westgate Superbook on a college football Saturday or NFL Sunday, the places are absolutely packed. It's not just the sportsbooks that see revenue, is the hotels, casinos, restaurants, buffets, bars, bartenders, cocktail waitresses, and all that reap the benefits.

 

[texas_sicilian]

break the states down by comparable size of countries in europe

in regards to the terms worse, in which way?

consider that the us with a population of roughly 330M has at this time has just under 133,000 deaths

the uk, italy, france, spain, and germany have roughly a combined population of 325M

you want to bet who has more deaths?

those 5 large western european countries have almost....ready for it......147,000 deaths

not sure how that is possible as we have been told we have handled this worse than anywhere else in the world, but if anyone wants to check the math here are a few links

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

i think you might also find these global trends on 5-day averages of interest

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new

Still probably our fault, somehow.

 

[Bob Sugar]

Las Vegas will get hit hard with no football... all this money invested in the Raiders, plus all the sportsbooks and casinos that love the foot traffic that football brings them on the weekends. If you have never been to the Westgate Superbook on a college football Saturday or NFL Sunday, the places are absolutely packed. It's not just the sportsbooks that see revenue, is the hotels, casinos, restaurants, buffets, bars, bartenders, [ the old ricardo ]tail waitresses, and all that reap the benefits.

But as long as we save one life...