BABYFACE
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But in this case, I want him stuck and bitter for a year. Then let him go.
Uhhh...Dixon to UCLA rumor/ news
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But in this case, I want him stuck and bitter for a year. Then let him go.
SnoSki
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cell phone video of dixon talking with tcu personnel waiting for plane in new york
You can't do the "it's not you, it's me" routine, that's MY routine! It's never you, it's always me!
TCUdirtbag
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Yeah, if he does a [ Finebaum ]ty job you turn around and fire him for cause. It’s not that complicated.
BABYFACE
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Not trying to disagree but in the world of sports, especially in collegiate sports, buyouts are paid and not challenged in court. However, the leaving party always tries to negotiate it down.
SnoSki
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Not sure, Chuuuuck
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DickBumpastache
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Little to lose? Yeah, just any momentum that the basketball program has had in the last 20+ years.
Sends a great message to any potential coaches too...especially the younger ones. 'Stay here for life or we'll try to ruin your career. Now just sign on this line and we're all set!'
TCUdirtbag
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With Dixon bailing on the heels of half our team transferring out, that momentum is already lost. We’ve got to accept that this is once again a total rebuild.
No, it sends a message to not negotiate a contract with a huge buyout if you plan to leave. Coaches know how the buyout game works. This situation is in no way unique to TCU. Besides, the reality is that UCLA is going to pay - not CJD. Coaches know that. They’ll play the game, but if he’s UCLA’s guy, an $8 M buyout isn’t getting in the way.
TCUdirtbag
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The first tremors:
Eight
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who made the mess of a roster that would be left behind?
i don't see this as tcu acting like the spurned one here, but make no mistake that at least half the kids dixon has signed in his first three classes are gone with noi possibly on his way out.
i guess the message would be clean up your scheissing messes or get ready to write a check on the way out the door
Hornedfrog431
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PJ is a beast. We need him. Yikes
BrewingFrog
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Don't think that UCLA hasn't taken a long look at the buyout clauses and numbers. They know what they're responsible for, and have since these talks began with Dixon's agent.
TCU is fully in the driver's seat in this exercise: Dixon has a contract with TCU which stipulates certain conditions under which he can bolt while the contract is in effect. Dixon signed the contract after consultation with agent/legal counsel. Hell, he probably initialed the buyout clause specifically. No way can he, or UCLA, wiggle out of that. It's a slam dunk.*
Neither Dixon nor UCLA is in a position to demand diddley-squat. Their job is to give TCU as much as they have to to see that TCU doesn't sue their warm-ups off* for breach. UCLA is likely to pay whatever is asked, up to the full buyout. They're UCLA. They have plenty of money.
*Try the veal! It's delicious!
TCU is fully in the driver's seat in this exercise: Dixon has a contract with TCU which stipulates certain conditions under which he can bolt while the contract is in effect. Dixon signed the contract after consultation with agent/legal counsel. Hell, he probably initialed the buyout clause specifically. No way can he, or UCLA, wiggle out of that. It's a slam dunk.*
Neither Dixon nor UCLA is in a position to demand diddley-squat. Their job is to give TCU as much as they have to to see that TCU doesn't sue their warm-ups off* for breach. UCLA is likely to pay whatever is asked, up to the full buyout. They're UCLA. They have plenty of money.
*Try the veal! It's delicious!
DickBumpastache
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It's nothing like the rebuild we just went through. We were playing in a high school gym just a few seasons ago. And recruits are already signed. I have no idea what the likelihood is that they'll get waivers or anything like that but I can't imagine it's very high. Also, which transfers were actually going to help this team if they stayed next year anyway?
Do you really think Dixon signed here thinking this was a stepping-stone job? He probably saw himself retiring here when Del Conte brought him on board. But Del Conte left, the team underachieved, the support was...lukewarm to say the least. Things change. No coach is going to let something like a buyout change his mind, one way or the other.
I guess I just don't get the feeling like we're losing some savior. Jamie Dixon has missed the tournament in 4 of his last 8 years as a head coach. 1 of them is excusable given how bad TCU was when he got here...but his own Pitt program had fully stalled when he left. The last time he didn't lose 10+ games in a season was 2013.
BrewingFrog
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It is my understanding that players who have signed LOIs with a particular coach/program, and the coach leaves for whatever reason, then they can be released from their LOI.
I stand to be corrected on that, but if true, then you can wave all those recruits goodbye.
I stand to be corrected on that, but if true, then you can wave all those recruits goodbye.
lonestarfrog89
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This is my understanding and actually to take it a step further, I believe the commitment is transferable to the new school, or something similar. So basically the recruit is tied to the coach, not the school.
Hornedfrog431
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I am sure JDon has a plan. This has been talked about for 3 months now. Now it’s just executing the plan he has. Put the trust in he has feelers out to external candidates and has a good grasp if any guys on staff would make great HC and then execute.
Hornedfrog431
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No school has ever not let a kid out of their LOI when the kid has never started classes etc. All three top 150 recruits would be open market to my understanding.
lonestarfrog89
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To be totally honest he hasn’t done anything to date that makes me feel cofident in locking up a good replacement. Not saying Donati can’t do it, but I haven’t seen anything that shows he can. Basically everything to date was teed up by CDC, it’s just been Donati’s gig to not screw up (coach/personnel wise)
froginmn
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Less money.
BrewingFrog
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"After nine days I let the horse run free
'Cause the desert had turned to sea
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The ocean is a desert with it's life underground
And a perfect disguise above..."
