Semper frog
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Amen to that!
You got what you wanted
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Fiscuits
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I agree, 2017 was great!
But that was half a decade ago.
If we would have had a good season (7-2 in Big 12) in 2019 or 2020…then this decision would be hard to understand.
We’ve been bottom 1/3 of Big 12 since 2016 and bottom 1/3 of Big 2012 since the day we joined.
2014 and 2015 were awesome!!! But 3 out of 10 seasons doesn’t cut it over all.
Fiscuits
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Hindsight being 20/20 you’re probably right. It’s the last year we were remotely relevant.Yeah, ideally Patterson should’ve retired right after that Alamo Bowl
Coming off of 2017 what have we done…..nothing but got worse.
Moose Stuff
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BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
I, for one, am astounded at the power we KillerFrogs folk possess! Why, merely lifting our fingers causes the Great and Mighty to tremble with fear, and leap to do our bidding when commanded! Careers will be dashed upon the rocks! Stalwart Programs laid waste! All will gaze upon us, and despair!!!!
If anybody is interested, I'll be working on moving an asteroid into an impact course for Waco in a few weeks. Come on by for a beer or two, and lend your psychokinetic powers to this grand endeavour...
If anybody is interested, I'll be working on moving an asteroid into an impact course for Waco in a few weeks. Come on by for a beer or two, and lend your psychokinetic powers to this grand endeavour...
Froginbedford
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And Iowa State....
Dogfrog
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you said we were five years too late getting rid of Gary. I merely pointed out to you that we finished top 10 four years ago. And top 10’s weren’t an anomaly. We finished top 10 in 2015 and 2014. Also in 2010, 2009, and 2008. Also finished ranked 11 times.
Not suggesting it wasn’t time for Gary to go. It’s just that trying to rewrite history is ignorant.
jack the frog
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I would be interested
Frog-in-law1995
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So either Waco is obliterated, or I drink a few beers, or both? I don’t really see a down side with this plan.
AustinFrog
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I see your worst decision ever and raise you Jim Schofner and/or Moe Iba
Deep Purple
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TCU hired Fran, not Gary. Gary would never have been at TCU if Fran hadn't brought him along.
Brog
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Hey, don't do that. Not nice.
TxFrog1999
The Man Behind The Curtain
I think I found my new signature...
Hoosierfrog
Tier 1
May have started with Fran in that GP came with him. Not sure Fran had much to do with the last 20years. GP had a lot to do with any success Fran had. We all know what happened when he left for greener pastures and GP stayed…
That's my question. Are we sure he's not waiting on one of those Big 12 jobs to open up so he can take it and come back to TCU seeking VENGENCE? (That was a real question but said with a little sarcasm)
No, it started with Patterson. Fran wasn't anything without GP and proved it when he left because he was never relevant again.
Deep Purple
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Without GP, Fran took Bama from a 6-5 reg season record in 2001 to 10-3 in 2002 and a West Division SEC championship. Missed a shot at the conference championship only because Bama was ineligible for post-season play due to cheating under previous coach Mike Dubose.
Fran's subsequent irrelevance was largely due to his own hubris and dishonesty. Had nothing at all to do with GP.
HornyWartyToad
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The same logic can apply just as well against Gary, as for him: Substitute Gary for Fran, and Bumpas for Gary and it's the same idea. The last really nasty, intimidating and inspiring defensive performance by TCU (that I can recall) was in the Peach vs. Ol Miss. . . Coincidentally, just before Bump retired.
Gary did great stuff at TCU. He deserved to have been rewarded and was, handsomely, but it's silly to hear folks suggesting that without him, TCU was forever doomed. The primary credit for the resurrection belongs to the big cigars who made the conscious decision that we would indeed have a resurrection. And then committed the resources to make it happen.
Gary was a great driver for a time, but stop pretending like he built the damn car, or that he was the only one who could possibly have driven it. There have been other great coaches at other schools who did great things during the same era. If not Gary, then TCU would have found someone else to elevate the program, and will again.
BleedNPurple
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I’m excited about what the future can hold for TCU football. Love Coach P - just time for a change of scenery for both TCU and Coach P. Let’s see what happens.
