DelFrog
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He may have had the 'tools', but he never displayed the 'instincts' required for quality QB play.
2020 Recruiting Thread
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He may have had the 'tools', but he never displayed the 'instincts' required for quality QB play.
Ron Swanson
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I understand that, which is why I said the coaches were waiting for it to click with him. And to be fair, he only played half of one season his freshman year. It’s not like the coaches gave him 3 seasons of leash.
A whole lot of people gave up on Boykin after two full years where they thought he never displayed the instincts required for quality QB play. We never would have had the 2014 & 2015 seasons if we had played Joekel instead of Boykin in 2014 like so many fans wanted.
Moose Stuff
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How would we know??? He was basically never 100% healthy.
Moose Stuff
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Get out of here with all this “making sense” [ deposit from a bull that looks like Art Briles ].
Billy Clyde
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It's not even close to arguable that errbody wanted SR. Whatever MMQBing anybody wants to do has to start there. Hate that it didn't work out, but get the furk over it and move on. We've got some hosses in the stable now- I'm excited to see what they can do. Wish we'da had a Spring Game so that we could angst about who should be starting. Whoever starts, I'm betting we survive Arkansas-Pine Bluff.
Froggish
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So the consensus with SR is that
1. He struggled because he was never healthy,
2. He struggled because first year starters suck a lot and
3. He struggled because he was lazy
I’m inclined to believe some combination of all three is true. Regardless loosing SR to Transfer means starting over again on the “growing pain” train and that sucks. Not to mention we have no evidence Cumbie can have any success with a 1st year starter. Maybe he was dealt a bad hand last year but If they can figure how thrive at places like TT and ISU with true freshman QBs, Cumbie should be able to figure it out as well.
1. He struggled because he was never healthy,
2. He struggled because first year starters suck a lot and
3. He struggled because he was lazy
I’m inclined to believe some combination of all three is true. Regardless loosing SR to Transfer means starting over again on the “growing pain” train and that sucks. Not to mention we have no evidence Cumbie can have any success with a 1st year starter. Maybe he was dealt a bad hand last year but If they can figure how thrive at places like TT and ISU with true freshman QBs, Cumbie should be able to figure it out as well.
Froggish
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Funny thing is that it seems like the gap between about 18 and 40 is smaller then ever.
Punter1
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Save for the first half of the Iowa State gane he had to play on 2 days notice his freshman year...Boykin looked light years ahead of SR in 2012...meaning he didnt make the stupid bonehead middle school mistakes SR KEPT making.
SR's lack of ball security was the worst I've seen in my entire life.
SnoSki
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They seem about the same in my mind but it has been a few years.
Hell Sent Frog
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Boykin was the much better athlete, he had a lot of running skills.
Treyvon also really enjoyed playing the game and he had a lot of on the field charisma.
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froginmn
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Equally worthwhile to note, then, that the same QB made the plays to make those wins so tantalizingly close.
flyfishingfrog
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Based on some views - I guess we don’t need coaches
I mean they are not responsible for whether we get good recruits or if those recruits have the right skills for our team or for ensuring the ones we do get develop into players that can contribute evidently
After all - I have learned the offense didn’t work well because we didn’t have any better options - but it’s not like the coaches had anything to do with that lack of options, right?
Some of you act like this is pee wee and the coaches are forced to figure out a way to win with the kids in the neighborhood
Last time I checked the coaches are who determined what kids we brought on campus and gave scholarships
I mean they are not responsible for whether we get good recruits or if those recruits have the right skills for our team or for ensuring the ones we do get develop into players that can contribute evidently
After all - I have learned the offense didn’t work well because we didn’t have any better options - but it’s not like the coaches had anything to do with that lack of options, right?
Some of you act like this is pee wee and the coaches are forced to figure out a way to win with the kids in the neighborhood
Last time I checked the coaches are who determined what kids we brought on campus and gave scholarships
Ron Swanson
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I agree with you, but sometimes it just boils down to luck.
I’m sure in 2006 (in a weird alternate universe where Shawn Robinson was 11 years older) if the coaching staff had a choice between Andy Dalton or Shawn Robinson, they would’ve taken Robinson in a heart beat and we likely never would’ve made the Rose Bowl.
Recruiting these kids (especially QB’s) is a skill, but let’s face it, there is a lot of luck involved as well when it comes to who turns into a player.
BigRedFrog
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...and please, dear Lord, let there be some recruiting news really, really soon so this thread won't be so cringeworthy...
flyfishingfrog
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Winners make their own luck
Moose Stuff
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I actually think that’s a possibility today or soon after.
JC with the crystal ball pick for those that want recruiting news
