FroginBedford68
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+4 +4 +4We will never ever be able to hire a quality head coach if we fire a someone 11 months after making the national championship game.
+4 +4 +4We will never ever be able to hire a quality head coach if we fire a someone 11 months after making the national championship game.
This is the correct take. Also, prepare for the OC and DC to remain in staff for the same reason. I know Arkansas just fired theirs, but imagine trying to hire a replacement. You might see an extra hire like a QC coach that will come in, but not wholesale changes.We will never ever be able to hire a quality head coach if we fire a someone 11 months after making the national championship game.
Baring a catastrophic collapse down the stretch, I strongly suspect you're right. This means entering the 2024 season not as a fairly established front-runner program in the new Big XII but with effectively no practical idea of how good TCU actually is, just hoping to see forward momentum. In other words, despite going 13-2 last year and playing for a national championship, we're right back where the late-stage Patterson regime left us and in the situation Sonny Dykes inherited.This is the correct take. Also, prepare for the OC and DC to remain in staff for the same reason. I know Arkansas just fired theirs, but imagine trying to hire a replacement. You might see an extra hire like a QC coach that will come in, but not wholesale changes.
Isn't that every year?Baring a catastrophic collapse down the stretch, I strongly suspect you're right. This means entering the 2024 season not as a fairly established front-runner program in the new Big XII but with effectively no practical idea of how good TCU actually is, just hoping to see forward momentum. In other words, despite going 13-2 last year and playing for a national championship, we're right back where the late-stage Patterson regime left us and in the situation Sonny Dykes inherited.
AgreeWe will never ever be able to hire a quality head coach if we fire a someone 11 months after making the national championship game.
Abyssmal season. I’ve got an idea, let’s not change one single thing and give this another go. They’ll never even see us coming.Even if we have staff changes we still don't have a quarterback. We're going to run this same [ Finebaum ] next year with Chandler Morris again. Rinse and repeat. Dykes isn't a P5 coach.
There's a decent case to be made that the 3-3-5 can work, works well elsewhere, and we're building up to having the right personnel, etc. Maybe a few remarkable defensive standouts last year (Winters, Horton, Tre Hodges-Tomlinson) made the rebuild look ahead of schedule, and this year looks farther behind schedule than it in fact is. maybe we're like OU who looked awful last year and people kept saying that Venables's scheme takes two years to install; lo and behold, in 2023, they're back. Maybe Gillespie's defense looks a whole lot better next year. I can certainly see that argument for waiting.Even if we have staff changes we still don't have a quarterback. We're going to run this same [ Finebaum ] next year with Chandler Morris again. Rinse and repeat. Dykes isn't a P5 coach.
maybe we're like OU who looked awful last year and people kept saying that Venables's scheme takes two years to install; lo and behold, in 2023, they're back. Maybe Gillespie's defense looks a whole lot better next year. I can certainly see that argument for waiting.
Phil Bennett to complete the trifecta?This is Year Two for Gillespie's Scheme. It wasn't the best last season, and it's just slapstick bad this season. We aren't seeing improvement. We are seeing continued collapse and lack of anything approaching what was established last season. The players look to be just going through the motions.
I've seen enough. If they'd left him sitting with his baggage on the tarmac in Manhattan, I'd have applauded. As it is, I'm sure they'll give him until the end of the year, which means we're looking at three or more losses. Then he clears out his desk, security escorts him out, and we go looking for somebody else. Probably an ex-Baylor coach...
I'm agnostic at this point. Hard experience cheering for an absolute dumpster fire of a soccer club all my life has taught me that quick changes of coaching personnel more often lead to setbacks than progress. Instinctually I prefer stability and the slow-build. Overall, I still believe that this staff must have some real ability. The eight guys we had drafted last year were a special group, but they'd mostly been on the roster previously and even with everything that bounced in our favor last year (and there was a lot), you still don't just fall donkey-backwards into a playoff semifinal win without being able to coach. That said, the defense wasn't good last year at anything other than timely turnovers, which is difficult to replicate and not by itself an indication that you're good (see USC last year and this: they, too, excelled at generating turnovers last year, this year they're a disaster). This year we're worse on defense.This is Year Two for Gillespie's Scheme. It wasn't the best last season, and it's just slapstick bad this season. We aren't seeing improvement. We are seeing continued collapse and lack of anything approaching what was established last season. The players look to be just going through the motions.
I've seen enough. If they'd left him sitting with his baggage on the tarmac in Manhattan, I'd have applauded. As it is, I'm sure they'll give him until the end of the year, which means we're looking at three or more losses. Then he clears out his desk, security escorts him out, and we go looking for somebody else. Probably an ex-Baylor coach...
Just read this page of the thread but I take it we (fans) are done with Hoover? He looked like an All American in game 1 and a redshirt freshman in his first road start in game 2. Are we ready to throw him to the curb?Is there a majority of opinion on why this thing went south? Don't think I've seen one
Agree totally. Unfortunately I think the book is out on Morris. Can't throw deep and hesitant to run. KSU pressure goes to my point about the line. We have to get better. Last year Texas did a good job getting to Max, KSU put up a great goal line stand in B12 Champ game and I won't even mention UGA.@bronco - Of course we're not done with Hoover. I'm not done with Morris. Young quarterbacks need time to develop. Unfortunately, Morris has a hard time staying on the field which has stunted his development.
Edit: KSU kept pressure on Hoover. BYU did not.
Morris said as much in an early Carter Boys episode. He had to work to over come that. Maybe I misinterpreted what he said.@bronco - I don't think Morris hesitates to run; he doesn't get down or get OB . His injuries the last 2, possibly 3 years, came when he was tackled while running the ball.