Do You Think We Will Have The 5th Best Defense in the Big 12 This year?

[Gehörnter Frosch]

This is great.
 
Mission for the Offense:  "Prove 'em right!"
 
Mission for the Defense:  "Prove 'em wrong!"
 
Mission for the Whole Team:  "Prove yourself!"

 

[Zubaz]

The thing working in our favor is we dont have to play TCU in addition to Baylor like OSU, WVU, and UT do. Statistically that should help our D.

Reminds me of 2010 when officially UNM had a better SOS than we did. It was like "Yeah, they got to play TCU, and we had to play New Mexico!"

 

[rifram09]

Well, if we end up 5th this year, it will be by far the worst performance in the B12, and I highly doubt we win the league.

Is it theoretically possible? Yes. I just see it as unlikely.

 

[eh0215]

#3 at the worst, #2 or #1 more likely.
 
Baylor won't be top 5 with Phil Bennett. WVU, has a few good players but little chance at #2. Maybe top 5.

 
I hate Baylor and agree that Phil Bennet is holding them back as much as the next guy, but that's going to be as solid a defense as Bennet's ever had this coming season. They were 4th in the conference last season, and they return basically everyone on defense. 3 teams that were in front of them TCU/Texas/K State all lose several pieces on defense. Some of that's OOC creampuff enhanced, but it's not like they're Texas Tech on defense or their OOC is skewed by more than one game worth of stats relative to most of the rest of the conference.

 

[Zubaz]

Baylor won't be top 5 with Phil Bennett

They've been 4th each of the last two years under Bennett.

 

[BU24601]

2014 Conference Rankings (Avg rankings of Pass, Rush, Scoring)
 
1 TCU
2 UT
3 K State
4 BU
5 WVU
6 OU
7 Kansas
8 OK St
9 TxTech
10 Iowa St
 

 

[BU24601]

As bad as Baylor's secondary is (it is), they still finished ahead of both OK schools.  Allowing on average 18 yards a game more than TCU through the air.

 

[jake102]

I'd be curious to see stats adjusted for conference & bowl games only.

 

[cdsfrog]

They've been 4th each of the last two years under Bennett.

 
Fair enough they still weren't very good.
 
Comparing TCU and Baylors defense is stupid. As time went on Baylor got worse.
 
46 to Tech, 27 to Kstate, and 42 to MSU
 
TCU last 3 games. 10 at UT, 3 at home vs ISU, and 3 @atlanta vs Ole Miss.

 

[eh0215]

As bad as Baylor's secondary is (it is), they still finished ahead of both OK schools.  Allowing on average 18 yards a game more than TCU through the air.

 
The TCU pass defense was much more efficient than Baylors last season. Half a yard lower YPA. Over twice the INT rate (5.5% vs 2.6%). 5% lower completions against. The one relevant argument the Baylor fan can make is that their pass defense was more efficient than TCU's when it matter the most, head 2 head.
 
Total defensive yardage stats are too heavily influenced by your own offense. How your offense operates and it's efficiency will impact the exposure of the defense from a "total" standpoint.

 

[cdsfrog]

Tcu took the majority of the season to adjust their defense to the offense style. Hell the offense had to make a lot of changes like running the damn ball when u have a lead and not snapping every 5 seconds late in the game.

 

[ifrog]

As bad as Baylor's secondary is (it is), they still finished ahead of both OK schools.  Allowing on average 18 yards a game more than TCU through the air.

Oklahoma played Tennessee, Okie State played Florida State. Baylor played Northwestern State, Buffalo and SMU. Try again.

 

[HFrog12]

Yea I think the DL is going to help the secondary.  They will be in the backfield a lot.

 

[FrogSwagSurfin]

Haha. History repeats itself:

2012: #1
2013: #2
2014: #1

The stupidest prediction ever.

 

[Froglaw]

2014 Conference Rankings (Avg rankings of Pass, Rush, Scoring)
 
1 TCU
2 UT
3 K State
4 BU
5 WVU
6 OU
7 Kansas
8 OK St
9 TxTech
10 Iowa St
 

 
Does that include the OOC games too or just the 9 conference games?
 
Not being ugly, just asking.

 

[Froglaw]

 
Fair enough they still weren't very good.
 
Comparing TCU and Baylors defense is stupid. As time went on Baylor got worse.
 
46 to Tech, 27 to Kstate, and 42 to MSU
 
TCU last 3 games. 10 at UT, 3 at home vs ISU, and 3 @atlanta vs Ole Miss.

 
Funny how Ole Miss just gave up at the end of the game on 4th down and kicked the field goal to avoid the shut out.
 
And that drive was against TCU's 2's and 3's.

 

[Frogged]

 
Funny how Ole Miss just gave up at the end of the game on 4th down and kicked the field goal to avoid the shut out.
 
And that drive was against TCU's 2's and 3's.

Which shouldn't have happened anyways b/c CEL recovered the fumble that put them in FG range...
 
Not at all a big deal in the scheme of things I suppose

 

[tcudoc]

Which shouldn't have happened anyways b/c CEL recovered the fumble that put them in FG range...
 
Not at all a big deal in the scheme of things I suppose

Yep.  The refs blew the shutout for the frogs.

 

[party frog]

TCU will have a top 3 defense but will be ranked 4th-5th in stats.

TCU will score quickly and often. Opponents will be throwing and running more plays to keep up.

 

[Atomic Frawg]

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