Don Sanders
Active Member
Sonny is soft and an excuse maker. He will never change, just like Patterson refused to do.
What Can We Actually Do?
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Bruce Berry
Active Member
Did Gary ever make public who hit the man in the head with the helmet? That dude needs to pay.
PineyWoodsFrog
Active Member
If we, the fans, have to do something to invoke change, there really is no hope.
82 Frog Fever
Active Member
If you mean what can we do to get this program back to winning ASAP,
I would suggest starting a GoFundMe for TCU FB NIL.
As soon as the fund has grown large enough to fund Professional CFB, such as below, we should be able to get this train rolling again for the ‘25 season.
TCU’s largest NIL deal is Hailey Van Lith for $696k
I would suggest starting a GoFundMe for TCU FB NIL.
As soon as the fund has grown large enough to fund Professional CFB, such as below, we should be able to get this train rolling again for the ‘25 season.
TCU’s largest NIL deal is Hailey Van Lith for $696k
4 Oaks Frog
Active Member
What I meant when I stated this thread asking “What Can We Do?” was what can we do to expedite the removal of SD and crew.
I like your idea of a Go Fund Me account. But, not to get money to pay players. I think the goal with the Go Fund Me should be to raise enough money to pay SD’s buyout so we can jettison him right away. I definitely would contribute to that cause…
So in other words, you don’t want to give SD a chance to be successful because you don’t want him to be successful. That’s what I figured. I don’t think you’re alone, there are a lot of Frog fans who got their feelings hurt when SD took guys that GP couldn’t win with and went 12-2. Enough so that they apparently are willing to take SD down by eliminating support.
Which is fine, it’s their prerogative, but let’s call it what it is.
Sorry, but it is Cal all over again. History does repeat itself.
82 Frog Fever
Active Member
That could be interesting.
Fix TCU’s current issues by hiring an up and coming Group coach with no major CFB coaching experience, or any experience in navigating major portal recruiting while managing an NIL cap on any level. ….or maybe we could get a big time assistant from a Power team for his first head coaching job and a huge learning curve.
I’m sure that will work out great. This is the perfect time for hiring a Power level rookie head coach with little or no NIL experience.
grumpyoldman
Active Member
(sarcasm) Gosh, isn't commodification of everything great? Free market capitalism for everything, right?
grumpyoldman
Active Member
Might beat having the mail it in moron currently coaching.
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
Sarcasm aside, is it not the Assistants that primarily do the recruiting? Aren't they the ones crawling through hick towns in rented cars looking for talent? I don't believe it takes too terribly long for a Coach to figure out the recruiting game, or the NIL game. In fact, it's probably harder for the old guys to pick up on it than the new guys.
GP had not had a Head Coaching job when he was hired. As an introvert afraid of public speaking, it was a challenge for him. And us. Of course, Pat Sullivan was a great public speaker. Look where that got us.
Matt Campbell, Matt Rhule (Hire guys named 'Matt'?) are both danged good motivators, and good X and O guys. They also have the knack of evaluating players that we evidently do not have. Both came into situations where they didn't have a Book on their tendencies, and they were young and mentally adroit enough to stay reasonably unpredictable.
This is why I would prefer a young, first time or step-up Coach. Mentors are a dime a dozen, and I like the idea of someone with fire who doesn't have an idea of his own limitations. Besides, they are cheaper to hire.
82 Frog Fever
Active Member
From 2018-‘22 there were 14 Group/FCS coaches promoted to the Power level, and 5 succeeded. 35%.
(and the low level criteria for success is only that they were better than their predecessor)
Those are sorry odds when you’re betting $30m and the next 5 seasons.
What makes successful college football coaching hire? A look at Power Five hires finds key traits
Can you predict college football coaching success? A look at Power Five hires from 2018-21 found four key traits that predict positive results.
www.usatoday.com
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
And the percentage of Old Guys who shuffled from one job to the next? Like the sage of El Campo said, "There's two kinds of Coaches, son: Them that's been fired, and them that's gonna be fired."From 2018-‘22 there were 14 Group/FCS coaches promoted to the Power level, and 5 succeeded. 35%.
(and the low level criteria for success is only that they were better than their predecessor)
Those are sorry odds when you’re betting $30m and the next 5 seasons.
What makes successful college football coaching hire? A look at Power Five hires finds key traits
Can you predict college football coaching success? A look at Power Five hires from 2018-21 found four key traits that predict positive results.www.usatoday.com
They gotta learn sometime. I'm not terribly keen on a re-tread, for the reasons that we are presently suffering. Sonny is the very portrait of complacency. He's getting his $27 million one way or another. Nothing is going to give him a hiccup in his backswing. There's no urgency at all. Look at Jimbo, they cut him a check for $77 million to go away. Sonny has retirement plans in mind...
No, I want a guy who isn't looking to fleece us for a golf retirement lottery. A young and hungry kid in his mid 30s who has seen what there is to see and still has his ambitions and optimism intact.
"Better to burn out, than to fade away..."
grumpyoldman
Active Member
This. Jettison this.... lump.... and do the best you can. TCU and most division 1 schools won't be able to compete in football in the future, anyway. Uncontrolled Big Money has finally killed college football. Focus on basketball and baseball. You still might be able to compete in those sports.
grumpyoldman
Active Member
I really hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
FrogBall09
Active Member
Or just fire our AD so the 4 - 5 traditionally big donors that don’t like him will start giving again…
FrogBall09
Active Member
Better than a lifetime .500 coach that has had 20 years to prove that is what he is
grumpyoldman
Active Member
Fire coach lump and the AD and focus on sports you can afford.
ShreveFrog
Full Member
Guess I missed Cal’s undefeated regular season and NY6 bowl win.
gohornedfrogs
Tier 1
Well, this was interesting…From 2018-‘22 there were 14 Group/FCS coaches promoted to the Power level, and 5 succeeded. 35%.
(and the low level criteria for success is only that they were better than their predecessor)
Those are sorry odds when you’re betting $30m and the next 5 seasons.
What makes successful college football coaching hire? A look at Power Five hires finds key traits
Can you predict college football coaching success? A look at Power Five hires from 2018-21 found four key traits that predict positive results.www.usatoday.com
Looking back at the first-year Power Five hires in 2022, seven of of the eight coaches to post a winning record during the regular season meet at least half of these four traits.
One coach checked all the boxes:
- TCU's Dykes, 53, brought along 15 years of Power Five experience, including seven years as an assistant at Texas Tech and four years as the head coach at California, and an extensive background on the offensive side of the ball. He has the Horned Frogs in the playoff in his debut.
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