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Mean Purple

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Yeah. Our D was gassed from UCF pounding our asses for 4 qtrs!!!
yup. run blocking is violent. that tests a d line. different personel numbers start making the D shift. just can't bring down a d back to cover the short pass (to a rcvr that the back was already going to cover). it adds up.
 

Mean Purple

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That's Briles ball. I believe the logic is that if the other team knows when you're going to snap it you lose a major advantage in your passing game, and that if you're in rhythm you need to keep moving because success rate is more valuable than the clock time you don't use. I mean those empty yards in losing efforts don't just throw for themselves; you've really got hustle if you want to be the only top ten total offense in yards per game to finish 6-6.

I think the philosophy is complete rubbish. If you're defending a lead in the second half against a good team that can run the ball well you kill every second you can. UCF went ahead with .35 to play. Is Briles going to say there weren't thirty five seconds we could have burned before snapping the ball in the second half? Even on the two three and outs I bet we had a combined thirty five seconds we could have used prior to snapping the ball then throwing an incompletion behind the sticks.
A lot of that is the Hal Mumme/Leach school. Which would catch the D off guard ... 20 years ago. They have it figured out now. The whole concept was to help lesser teams compete with bigger teams. well, now we are in a league that is all bigger teams. They have tape. After year 1, the cat is out of the bag and strung up on the goal post.
 

Limey Frog

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A lot of that is the Hal Mumme/Leach school. Which would catch the D off guard ... 20 years ago. They have it figured out now. The whole concept was to help lesser teams compete with bigger teams. well, now we are in a league that is all bigger teams. They have tape. After year 1, the cat is out of the bag and strung up on the goal post.
Yep, we have a revolutionary offensive scheme... twenty years ago.

Yes! Awesome! So explosive! So fun! Blah blah blah. It's bollocks. It's the offensive strategy equivalent of being on cocaine. You might think you're having fun and winning, but you're not. You're just making things worse when reality finally catches up to you.
 

Mean Purple

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That's Briles ball. I believe the logic is that if the other team knows when you're going to snap it you lose a major advantage in your passing game, and that if you're in rhythm you need to keep moving because success rate is more valuable than the clock time you don't use. I mean those empty yards in losing efforts don't just throw for themselves; you've really got hustle if you want to be the only top ten total offense in yards per game to finish 6-6.

I think the philosophy is complete rubbish. If you're defending a lead in the second half against a good team that can run the ball well you kill every second you can. UCF went ahead with .35 to play. Is Briles going to say there weren't thirty five seconds we could have burned before snapping the ball in the second half? Even on the two three and outs I bet we had a combined thirty five seconds we could have used prior to snapping the ball then throwing an incompletion behind the sticks.
Yup. I remember Ken Hatfield winning games they should not have and he beat them with the clock. He did it at Air Force, Arkansas and Clemson.

(Odd football history side note: The latter two he left due to department/booster politics. Amazing the recruits he lost at those schools due to that insanity. At Clemson he had to clean of the Danny Ford era stuff. At Fayetteville, the Broyles weigh in factor became a hinderance - much like what Nutt faced. So much so he took the Clemson gig without even visiting and knowing that they were in the NCAA doghouse.)
 

Mean Purple

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After 3 games including one against a semi high school opponent, our not having a running back take one for a run with separation from defenders spells trouble. Blame it on the line, the running backs or the coaches, whatever, but it's the mark of a lack of talent! I was very unimpressed with everyone in the rb room last year not named Emani and am even more so this year.
that just can't be the case ... we have the portal master. (sarc)
 

Mean Purple

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Yep, we have a revolutionary offensive scheme... twenty years ago.

Yes! Awesome! So explosive! So fun! Blah blah blah. It's bollocks. It's the offensive strategy equivalent of being on cocaine. You might think you're having fun and winning, but you're not. You're just making things worse when reality finally catches up to you.
Pretty much what happened to Tech. They were dazzled by the sparkles. But it was almost a guarantee they were not going to get a championship.

I was at the Cotton Bowl with Ole Miss friends and the Rebs just methodically won the game. Houston Nutt was an offensive guy, but he knew the value of sound game management and complementary football.
 

Mean Purple

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The sooner TCU wakes up and moves on from Dykes, the better.

7-8 over his last 15, with two of the wins being against D2 schools.

The program has become soft, losing is acceptable. The defense has been a disaster since he stepped on campus. He looks completely lost on the sideline.

The guy is a career .500 coach who has never won a conference title. 2022 was a complete outlier, he did that with an extremly talented team and foundation laid by his predecessor. He has reverted to the norm, what he has always been.
There is the reality that if this keeps up for a long time, it will be that much longer to come back from. In the current environment, we can't afford to be less than 8 wins.
 

82 Frog Fever

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Yep, we have a revolutionary offensive scheme... twenty years ago.

Yes! Awesome! So explosive! So fun! Blah blah blah. It's bollocks. It's the offensive strategy equivalent of being on cocaine. You might think you're having fun and winning, but you're not. You're just making things worse when reality finally catches up to you.
Curious, what did you think was going to happen when Bennett went down for the season, and we were left with 7 rotatable offensive linemen?
Did you think, no sweat, we’ll just continue to run the ball and get at least 160 ypg?

We have 4 veteran O-linemen, an up and coming Ben T-W, plus 3 guys that barely have any playing experience at all...(including our starting C.)
TCU cannot and will not be a significant running threat with that front line.
Not to mention 3 young RBs with little or no experience, + Big Johnson, and a permanently injured Sanders.

These coaches are not just gonna fold up the tent. They will do whatever gives TCU the best chance to win right now.
- Is that run it 35+ times for 120 yds, and expect the defense to hold the opponent to 20 or less?
- Or is it throwing 35+ times for 350 yds, and expecting the D to hold the opponent under 30 something.
- or is it somewhere in between.

Outside of UCF’s 289 yds rushing (below avg.) against TCU, there has been only 2 games out of 14 where a B12 team has rushed for more than 200 yds versus a Power opponent, and that was K St. & Az. St. Neither of which, are on our schedule.
Pretty sure we’re gonna throw 60/40 (maybe more) to rushing plays.
 
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CardFrog

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Its hard to judge our running backs if we don't give them the ball. I actually thought Cam Cook looked pretty good given the situations they handed him the ball. I guess Trey Sanders is just not all that good? I mean that as a serious question. One of the toughest L's to choke down in the last 1o years. The game was more than winnable and I really hope UCF is a good team or its gonna be a long season. SMU is off to a [ Finebaum ] start lets keep it going for them.
 

Limey Frog

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Curious, what did you think was going to happen when Bennett went down for the season, and we were left with 7 rotatable offensive linemen?
Did you think, no sweat, we’ll just continue to run the ball and get at least 160 ypg?

We have 4 veteran O-linemen, an up and coming Ben T-W, plus 3 guys that barely have any playing experience at all...(including our starting C.)
TCU cannot and will not be a significant running threat with that front line.
Not to mention 3 young RBs with little or no experience, + Big Johnson, and a permanently injured Sanders.

These coaches are not just gonna fold up the tent. They will do whatever gives TCU the best chance to win right now.
- Is that run it 35+ times for 120 yds, and expect the defense to hold the opponent to 20 or less?
- Or is it throwing 35+ times for 350 yds, and expecting the D to hold the opponent under 30 something.
- or is it somewhere in between.

Outside of UCF’s 289 yds rushing (below avg.) against TCU, there has been only 2 games out of 14 where a B12 team has rushed for more than 200 yds versus a Power opponent, and that was K St. & Az. St. Neither of which, are on our schedule.
Pretty sure we’re gonna throw 60/40 (maybe more) to rushing plays.
There is some truth to this, no doubt. We don't have the personnel to be anything like the 2023 Wolverines. I'm not expecting that. But, firstly, the run-game personnel problems don't dictate when you snap the clock. Committing to run up-tempo no matter what is a separate but related question: that philosophy is a choice we are making and could not make. It cost us very badly this week, and will continue to cost us. Secondly, there were plenty of situations on Saturday in which even such limited running ability as we had shown would have been a better option. We were averaging 3.5 yards per carry. If we could have managed to post that on two plays from 3rd and goal at the 6 with 6 minutes to play after the false start flag, you win the game. An incompletion leaves you at 4th and goal from the six, meaning you pretty much have to kick. Similarly, after receiving the punt with three minutes to play inside our own twenty yard line, choosing to throw on first down and finding ourselves once again in 2nd and 10 pretty much closes off the entire running game half of the playbook right there. You know what happened next.

It's a chicken-egg question to me. Are we not running because we just don't have the personnel, or do we look like we don't have the offensive personnel to run because that's not where the work has gone from our offensive staff for the last two years? I'm sure there are other teams with depth issues on their transfer-heavy, makeshift offensive lines who are averaging more than 90 rushing yards a game and who could find a way to win with an eighteen point lead in the third quarter. Ultimately, what you're seeing play out is a choice. No, it's not as easy as just hitting the "run" button and suddenly being a juggernaut. But you choose what you work on. I don't think we work on the right things enough.

As always, I hope to be proved wrong. Johnny Finger-tape, prove me wrong, please. Prove that Saturday was a bad night in the office and TCU football isn't just the poor man's version of post-RGIII Baylor.
 

bronco

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It was even worse last night with the idiots wearing the inflatable pink Flamingos.

What happened to the LT video about it being the fourth quarter and being our time?
This might have been covered but... Why do we have a band? The instant the whistle blows they start blaring crap from the speakers! Do we have to do that at the end of every play? It is so annoying. The band is what makes the college experience different. Oh and the inflatables between quarter 3 and 4, how embarrassing.
 

FrogPreacher

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When they did the video on Frogs in the pros this past Sunday, why did they not show Turpin's punt return for a touchdown? Does the omission have anything to do with him being dismissed from the team? Or was it it a very bad oversight?
That was last week, was is not? I saw plenty of video of the return.
 

Dtx_Frog_Fan

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A question for anyone who knows X’s and O’s. Malzahn put on a masterclass in running well to set up the pass. Is it possible that we could pass well to set up the run? Could we utilize our passing strength to lay the groundwork for running the ball?

P.S. I like these grades. Our goal this year minimally is to turn the “F” into a “D.”
I kind of thought we did that, especially with that dime touchdown throw from midfield to open the second half. It’s too bad we didn’t recognize that. One thing I did like was a lot of short yardage high percentage passes to keep the clock running. That would’ve been way more effective had we not left 10 plus seconds on the play clock so frequently.
 

Frozen Frog

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That was the most offensive Briles game I have ever watched. Jump to a big lead and hope the defense can hold on to the lead. It reminded of the game where we got Johnny Tapefingers. They got cute, and MSU kept on them.

We have to do better at establishing the run. We have to impose our will from a physicality standpoint. Football is 4 quarters. We didn't play 4 quarters. Even if the run isn't working you have to show it just to keep everyone honest and wear down the defense. If a team wants to know how to easily defeat a Briles offense the recipe is to let them throw it around and get cute. Don't chase points. Wear the defense down, and let the team fold. Thank goodness he will be gone after this year. It will be to another school or to find a career away from football.
 
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