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<blockquote data-quote="gohornedfrogs" data-source="post: 3159981" data-attributes="member: 3599"><p>About 80,000 people watched it online today. First round of a regular PGA Tour event gets about 400,000 viewers. That's not a good start for LIV considering all the hype the last few weeks.</p><p></p><p>It's mostly some guys who are in Champions Tour purgatory -- too old to win on the regular tour, but not 50, yet. There's a few middling players who will make a lot more money with LIV than they would playing the DP Tour or PGA Tour, and not have to worry about losing their cards. Then there are a bunch of young players and amateurs who wouldn't be playing anywhere important if it wasn't for LIV.</p><p></p><p>I get why Phil is there. He simply wants the money, and Phil is all about Phil. DJ is about three years away from being on the downhill side of his career. I admire DeChambeau's talent, and his boldness to take the swing where it's never been before, but he's an outcast on the Tour in a social sense. Patrick Reed is the same. Neither of them play well with others -- really, every one of those guys above is an outcast in one way or another.</p><p></p><p>To some degree, I can understand the players unhappiness with the Tour's independent contractor status simply because the Tour has so many dates, and therefore they really have limited opportunities to play in non-sanctioned events. But what the Tour does for them in return is pretty damn phenomenal. </p><p></p><p>The Tour has been talking about moving the Champions age down to 45 for several years now. I think it's inevitable now as a response to LIV.</p><p></p><p>All in all, I don't think this will have all that much impact on the Tour. They're going to need to lose some really big names before anybody will know the difference, and I don't see that happening.</p><p></p><p>I think the worst part of the Tour's response is that they are forbidding the LIV players from playing in PGA Tour events on a sponsor's exemption. The Tour doesn't own the vast majority of their events, so I can see some of the tournament organizers being unhappy that they can't invite DJ, Phil or Bryson as a one-off. That's where the Tour is going to get the most push-back.</p><p></p><p>The fun part is going to be when this thing falls apart in a few years and those guys have to beg to come back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gohornedfrogs, post: 3159981, member: 3599"] About 80,000 people watched it online today. First round of a regular PGA Tour event gets about 400,000 viewers. That's not a good start for LIV considering all the hype the last few weeks. It's mostly some guys who are in Champions Tour purgatory -- too old to win on the regular tour, but not 50, yet. There's a few middling players who will make a lot more money with LIV than they would playing the DP Tour or PGA Tour, and not have to worry about losing their cards. Then there are a bunch of young players and amateurs who wouldn't be playing anywhere important if it wasn't for LIV. I get why Phil is there. He simply wants the money, and Phil is all about Phil. DJ is about three years away from being on the downhill side of his career. I admire DeChambeau's talent, and his boldness to take the swing where it's never been before, but he's an outcast on the Tour in a social sense. Patrick Reed is the same. Neither of them play well with others -- really, every one of those guys above is an outcast in one way or another. To some degree, I can understand the players unhappiness with the Tour's independent contractor status simply because the Tour has so many dates, and therefore they really have limited opportunities to play in non-sanctioned events. But what the Tour does for them in return is pretty damn phenomenal. The Tour has been talking about moving the Champions age down to 45 for several years now. I think it's inevitable now as a response to LIV. All in all, I don't think this will have all that much impact on the Tour. They're going to need to lose some really big names before anybody will know the difference, and I don't see that happening. I think the worst part of the Tour's response is that they are forbidding the LIV players from playing in PGA Tour events on a sponsor's exemption. The Tour doesn't own the vast majority of their events, so I can see some of the tournament organizers being unhappy that they can't invite DJ, Phil or Bryson as a one-off. That's where the Tour is going to get the most push-back. The fun part is going to be when this thing falls apart in a few years and those guys have to beg to come back. [/QUOTE]
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