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FWST: TCU has handled its business, but now the real season starts

TopFrog

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TCU has handled its business, but now the real season starts

By Steven Johnson

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It’s been so-far, so-good for the Horned Frogs to start the 2024 season as TCU’s 45-0 win over Long Island Saturday moved the Horned Frogs to 2-0.

There’s been noticeable improvement with the defense. The Horned Frogs pitched a shutout and had dominant stretches against Stanford. Josh Hoover has picked up right where he left off last season with 620 yards and four passing touchdowns with zero interceptions.

There’s plenty of reasons to be optimistic if you’re a TCU fan. But in reality, we’ll learn a whole lot more about the Horned Frogs in the next two weeks than we did in the first two games.

Read more at: https://www.star-telegram.com/sport...niversity/article291983570.html#storylink=cpy

Also at https://sports.yahoo.com/steven-johnson-tcu-handled-business-165724756.html
 
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Limey Frog

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With KSU, KU, OSU, and Arizona looking not overly impressive, and Cam Rising potentially out for x amount of games, this game just became significantly more consequential for both TCU and UCF. The Big 12 looks like an open race between basically half the conference.
I think the championship game participants will emerge from the group of KSU, Utah, Arizona, Oklahoma State, UCF, and TCU. That's a big group and the margins between them seem very fine. We play four of five of the others, avoiding only K-State, but we get three of the four we play at home. Those home games with UCF, the Pokes, and 'zona will define the year for TCU.
 

tmcats

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I think the championship game participants will emerge from the group of KSU, Utah, Arizona, Oklahoma State, UCF, and TCU. That's a big group and the margins between them seem very fine. We play four of five of the others, avoiding only K-State, but we get three of the four we play at home. Those home games with UCF, the Pokes, and 'zona will define the year for TCU.
i've had ucf as a dark horse for some time now. gus's bus is loaded. uu didn't score after losing rising. how long he's out only a liar knows. uofa comes to manhattan friday night in an ooc game. that should settle it for one of the two, both coming off uninspiring outings. as well, oSu lost the stats badly to the hogs sans the score, so i'm not taken with them either. ku lost andy kotelnicki to penn state and subbed jeff grimes. it showed losing to illinois. "friday nights joey" is just that - gerry faust 2.0. only asu is surprisingly good beating a sec, sec school. so this conference may indeed be the definition of meh. we will just have to watch it play out.
 

BrewingFrog

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it showed losing to illinois. "friday nights joey" is just that - gerry faust 2.0.
Wow! That's going back a minute...

I thought Kansas looked pretty good, until they would make a spectacular blunder, which they did again and again. Bielema looked like some kind of angry crustacean stomping around on the sidelines...
 

tmcats

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Wow! That's going back a minute...

I thought Kansas looked pretty good, until they would make a spectacular blunder, which they did again and again. Bielema looked like some kind of angry crustacean stomping around on the sidelines...
love bielema. not sure how he stays out of a back brace with that hanging over the front though. ha. he's just a very solid coach, not great, but good enough for illinois. he spent some time with coach snyder as d'coordinator here at k-state after playing for him at iowa.

i did not catch a lot of the illinois game. there's no question ku is talented particularly on offense. neal is a dude at running back. but coaches call the plays and set the strategy. andy kotelnicki to penn state was huge loss for leipold. in fact his loss makes me recall when dan hawkins went to cu without chris petersen. petersen stayed on as head coach at boise, then uw. hawkins was an epic fail after he lost him.
 
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BrewingFrog

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I don't think the coaching was the issue for Kansas, more the basic execution of some plays and some crazy turnovers that just kept happening. 5 of them, in fact; one on downs, one fumble lost, and three INTs. KU beat themselves.
 

tetonfrog

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I don't think the coaching was the issue for Kansas, more the basic execution of some plays and some crazy turnovers that just kept happening. 5 of them, in fact; one on downs, one fumble lost, and three INTs. KU beat themselves.
I thought KU let Daniels play hero ball too often. Neal, their #1 RB, averaged 7.2 yards a carry and only got the ball 14 times. Too cute on offense.
 

SW toad

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With KSU, KU, OSU, and Arizona looking not overly impressive, and Cam Rising potentially out for x amount of games, this game just became significantly more consequential for both TCU and UCF. The Big 12 looks like an open race between basically half the conference.
I saw most of the Arizona-New Mexico game. Arizona looked pretty good. According to several outlets, they have 2 likely 1st round draft picks. The WR and CB who go up against one another in practice each day. They also have a lineman who possibly is a 1-3 rd pick.

I think the game against Northern Arizona is an outlier as they were looking ahead to playing KSU this week.

Sometimes, we need to be reminded about the physicality of CFB. Hodge, Camara and others took out at least 4 QBs in '22 including Jalon Daniels. Can Avery Johnson running as much as he does with that rail thin body hold up?
 

tmcats

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I saw most of the Arizona-New Mexico game. Arizona looked pretty good. According to several outlets, they have 2 likely 1st round draft picks. The WR and CB who go up against one another in practice each day. They also have a lineman who possibly is a 1-3 rd pick.

I think the game against Northern Arizona is an outlier as they were looking ahead to playing KSU this week.

Sometimes, we need to be reminded about the physicality of CFB. Hodge, Camara and others took out at least 4 QBs in '22 including Jalon Daniels. Can Avery Johnson running as much as he does with that rail thin body hold up?
avery weighing in at 190# this fall. not thin. if anything, cat fans are wanting him to run more, not less. he has not spent many snaps running the rock to this point in time. big time game v. uofa. it will be a season definer for both.

 

82 Frog Fever

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TCU has a very talented team that has a chance to be very relevant this year in the conference. Of course there is one huge Achilles heel.
The coaches try to soften it when speaking in public, by saying we have to do better or we have to emphasize the run game. The hard fact is TCU‘s interior run blocking from guard to guard is absolutely abysmal.
I went back and watched the 1st 2 games and our IOL can’t run block at all. There is literally no daylight until you’re outside the tackles. The best example was in the 1st Qtr against LIU when Dominique got stuffed twice at the 1yd. line by an FCS team. Against an FCS team we were 6 of 13 on 3rd/4th down conversions.
This must somehow get remedied immediately, or we may not even win this game.
 

Frog Attack II

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IMO, the championship run was an absolute miracle to keep those OL on campus and in tact (virtually no injuries). That said, our OL recruiting in GP's last few years was awful. HCSD must improve here (via recruitment or NIL) as it will define success moving forward
 

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