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And here we go.....12 just probably isn't enough.

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Endless Purple

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Agree with others. This is simply to set up the SEC and B1G champs with a bye and make it less likely the Big 12 or ACC champion will make it through by giving them an extra game, plus two more teams from the B1G / SEC get in.
 
Chongo94

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Limey Frog

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TopFrog said:
Why stop there?
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bc puckett said:
They won’t
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We should get a 128-team playoff. Format would be a first round phase in groups with round-robin scheduling. These would be regional groups of roughly nine or ten teams each, consisting of 8-9 games with 1-2 interdivisional games (call these non-conference). Stop me if this sounds familiar...
 
This Ain't Chopped Liver

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Appears 14 will happen. 3 each for the SEC and B1G and 2 each for the Big XII and ACC are one negotiated option—
sports.yahoo.com

CFP circulating new 14-team model with 3 spots for Big Ten/SEC, 2 for ACC/Big 12

One of the potential models for a new College Football Playoff may be emerging.
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The 3-3-2-2-1 format is seen as a compromise to the Big Ten and SEC’s initial proposal of four automatic berths for those leagues — a model that, in a 14-team playoff, would leave just one at-large spot.

Timing of a final decision on a format is uncertain, but CFP leaders are facing a somewhat urgent timeline with regards to a new television deal. A format for a future playoff is one of several unresolved issues that commissioners must tackle before extending its deal with ESPN through 2031, a contract worth $1.3 billion annually, according to the network’s own reporting.

The CFP revenue-sharing model as well as a voting structure are other unresolved issues. CFP executive director Bill Hancock believes that the issues need to be solved within the next month.

The 3-3-2-2-1 format proposal is a move toward another trend in college athletics: unequal treatment among its members. The SEC and Big Ten, swelling to a combined 34 members with some of the sport’s biggest brands, are jockeying for more access than other leagues.

The format reflects the growing gap between the new tier in the sport: the Power Two and all others.
 
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Limey Frog

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This Ain't Chopped Liver said:
Appears 14 will happen. 3 each for the SEC and B1G and 2 each for the Big XII and ACC are one option.
sports.yahoo.com

CFP circulating new 14-team model with 3 spots for Big Ten/SEC, 2 for ACC/Big 12

One of the potential models for a new College Football Playoff may be emerging.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
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I could live with that. If the Big 12 is guaranteed two spots that's probably a best case scenario. We could scrap the CCG, not put our best two teams through a thirteenth game and just move the top two teams in the standings into the playoff. The bummer would be that we'd never get a bye and the SEC and Big Ten champs invariably would. For that reason I'd rather just go to 16 and have no byes (if we have to expand it at all, which I'd rather not).
 
Limey Frog

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Wexahu said:
Just say whoever has the best record is the champion. And come up with some tiebreaker formula. Who cares whether it’s fair or makes sense, the only thing that really matters is having a champion declared.
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Right. Or just go back to co-champions if records are tied and there's no head-to-head between the teams in question. Who cares? If two teams finish 11-1 with 8-1 conference records and both go to the CFP, they've both had good years and will probably be happy, and no one needs to pay to visit Jerry World. Everyone puts another year up on the stadium wall; win-win.
 
Planks

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ShreveFrog said:
How would you determine a champion in a 16-team league without a ccg?
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Easy:

1) Team with the best conference record is conference champion

2) If multiple teams are tied for best record, then head to head record amongst tied teams is the tie breaker

3) If tie cannot be broken by head to head record, then tied teams are co-champions.
 
Limey Frog

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Good write-up here, if you're a subscriber to The Athletic:

theathletic.com

Why the ACC and Big 12 face a no-win situation in 14-team CFP proposal

Only the ACC and Big 12 have any power to push back on the Big Ten and SEC's plans for the future. But there are tough decisions to make.
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Now it’s the ACC and Big 12 with the toughest decisions to make. In the 3-3-2-2-1 model, those two conferences have the most to gain and the most to lose. In exchange for more guaranteed CFP access, they would solidify themselves as second-class conferences. That’s an offer on the table (among other options, yes, but this model has gained the most traction, according to sources familiar with the discussions).

It’s not hard to see why two guaranteed CFP spots each could be appealing to the ACC and Big 12. In 2023, the leagues had just one team from each of their future memberships finish in the top 14 of the College Football Playoff rankings: Florida State (ACC) and Arizona (Big 12). Under this model, the last team left out of a 14-team field last year would’ve been LSU, which finished 13th; meanwhile, Louisville (15th) and Oklahoma State (20th) would have made the cut. In many years, the ACC and the Big 12 could get teams outside the top 14 into the field, likely at the expense of a higher-ranked Big Ten or SEC team.

But there’s the other side of that deal, which requires the ACC and Big 12 to relegate themselves to lesser-than status, admitting that the Big Ten and the SEC are better conferences that deserve more guaranteed spots, more guaranteed money and the only byes. That would still leave them ahead of the Group of 5, yes, but the Power-2/Middle-2 disparity would be an extremely hard sell to fans, many of whom feel insulted that this tiered model is even being discussed. And if you’re the ACC trying to keep Florida State and Clemson from leaving, the admission that more postseason opportunity lies elsewhere definitely doesn’t help.
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Honestly I don't think this is much of a decision for the Big 12. Two bids to the post-season was probably the best case scenario for us already, and this would guarantee that number while leaving open the (unlikely) possibility of a third spot via one of the three at-large bids. If the ACC gets dismembered and we add teams, maybe we go up to three AQ spots and the aristocracy moves up to four each. Or maybe the Big Ten and SEC breakaway entirely, but if they want to do that we're screwed no matter what we do. I think we should probably do whatever we can to put daylight between us and the conferences below us, while remaining close enough competitively to the big two (if possible) that our best programs might be able to win some games in the CFP. This model is probably as good as it's going to get for us short of an NFL-like commitment to maintaining parity (which won't happen).
 

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