froginmn
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My cousin had a bout with conflated Gundy's. Very painful, but medication was able to bring it under control.Doh'.....Conflated Gundys....
My cousin had a bout with conflated Gundy's. Very painful, but medication was able to bring it under control.Doh'.....Conflated Gundys....
Did it last more than 4 hours?My cousin had a bout with conflated Gundy's. Very painful, but medication was able to bring it under control.
Sure; it's simple and clear: say The Word That Shall Not Be Spoken aloud and you're finished. That couldn't be clearer at this point. Because our society now has absolutely no capacity, willingness, or courage to distinguish between malicious intent and honest mistakes stemming from momentary lapses. We also lack any capacity for grace, because the moral economy of our civilization no longer rests on a formative meta-narrative of divine grace, but is animated solely by retributive impulses in a world where everything is political and all political lines are unalterably tribal. You can't be mistaken, sorry, and forgiven; you can only be wrong, evil, and punished.
It's not the prohibition on The Forbidden Word that is lamentable: I could, needless to say, happily live the rest of my life without hearing it again. It's what insane responses like this suggest about our collective lack of reasonableness and moral courage that bother me.
To repeat: we're all in serious trouble; enjoy the decadent pleasures of a fatally ill civilization while you can.
Crazy how blacks are freely able to say a word but if a white person says it, that makes it racist, but its not racist when blacks say it
I think you meant any person Regardless of ethnicity who uses that word is trash... not to impune an entire ethnic group because one member uses the n word.It’s a trash word and any ethnicity that throws it around is part of trash culture.
I think you meant any person Regardless of ethnicity who uses that word is trash... not to impune an entire ethnic group because one member uses the n word.
I'll disagree with you but he was slowly was loosing the locker before that. I credit our AD who saw down the pike and made the change.Gary lost control of the locker room when he told his players to not use the n-word and actually verbalized it....From then on, the on-field efforts of the players were poor and getting poorer....Adult leaders are expected to be more circumspect, cautious, and couth than any of the student players....Gundy seems to have decided to get out before a similar player backlash occurs at Oklahoma State....
For the players too?I mean it’s a fairly simple rule. Don’t use the n word. Ever. Certainly seems like a tough penalty based upon the circumstances, but I kinda feel like that rule is crystal clear.
You son of a gun…you stole what I was going to say. Well said!
Crazy how blacks are freely able to say a word but if a white person says it, that makes it racist, but its not racist when blacks say it
I would say yes. That word should never be on our lips. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for anyone who uses it. But higher education is no longer part of the game, so good luck getting players if you ever implemented that rule.For the players too?
I see a day coming soon where there may be some problems getting fans…..just sayin.I would say yes. That word should never be on our lips. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for anyone who uses it. But higher education is no longer part of the game, so good luck getting players if you ever implemented that rule.
I see a day coming soon where there may be some problems getting fans…..just sayin.
If education were part of the equation, The Word would have no baggage, or meaning. Just another word that held no power. But, alas, frauds and scumbags operating under the guise of "education" and "activism" have weaponized The Word, and hold the power of absolute ruin and professional destruction to any they feel they should apply this power to. All this does is make people operate in a constant state of fear.I would say yes. That word should never be on our lips. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for anyone who uses it. But higher education is no longer part of the game, so good luck getting players if you ever implemented that rule.
Doesn't add up.....Pretty crazy that he's getting run for impromptu reading out loud what a player wrote during film session. But I guess that's the world we live in now.
Notably stark difference from how Gary handled his (worse, IMO) situation.
I understand your point, but you screwed it up by saying “blacks.” Twice. They are black people, if you must, but they are not “blacks” or “the blacks.”Crazy how blacks are freely able to say a word but if a white person says it, that makes it racist, but its not racist when blacks say it
I am VERY skeptical that OU would fire a long-time assistant coach (who apparently had some serious success) and fairly distinguished alumnus over one of this sort of incident. Haul him on the carpet, publicly? Yep. Demote and/or fine him on the job? Yep.
The cynic in me says that this smells like an excuse, not a reason for a firing. Particularly with a brand new head coach in the building. Who knows how Gundy and Venables got along, or Gundy and someone else in the OU community that swings a big stick?