replacing bad with below average may be good the first few years, but will inevitably lead us back to where we are now.Anyone other than Gary was progress.
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replacing bad with below average may be good the first few years, but will inevitably lead us back to where we are now.Anyone other than Gary was progress.
that may be the case. I guess I was in error to think that the AD was making the hiring decisions.If you think our AD is running the show here you’re directing your blame at the wrong target.
Yes. I’d rather see Pee Wee as the face of the program than Tom. At least everyone would be able to acknowledge going in that it’s a clown show. Also, replacing the techno blast between plays with “Tequila,” would be an upgrade, IMO.Is it crazy to want Herman over Dykes? I mean honestly who has the better overall resume...I would say Herman. UT only fired him because they think 7-3 is unacceptable, two years after winning the sugar bowl...
The change had to be made. I don't get what you are saying. The option of keeping with the status quo was not there, GP was totally DONE as a coach here, that was plainly obvious. There is no failure here. That wouldn't be determined for another 2-3 years anyway.If this is the scenario we are looking at, then our 'search committee' has failed us. I'm certain that when deciding to make a change, "who we can get" has to be part of that decision making process. Not "we might come here", because that would be a failure of huge proportions.
Another way to say that is "hoping we can hire someone good" isn't part of a good plan and if a good plan wasn't in place, that's a problem.
Replacing the techno blast with ANYTHING, from crying babies to screeching nails on the blackboard, would be a huge improvement.Yes. I’d rather see Pee Wee as the face of the program than Tom. At least everyone would be able to acknowledge going in that it’s a clown show. Also, replacing the techno blast between plays with “Tequila,” would be an upgrade, IMO.
I’m sorry... but did you just cite someone’s college gpa as qualification for a P5 college head coaching position?I have only read some bio, so only surface info but suggesting good CEO traits. He was very busy and accomplished in college and then worked at Michelin North America. He is currently Assistant Head Coach for a national champion head coach. Same stuff I have posted here twice before so excuse me. Tony Elliott’s bio suggests motivation, leadership, organizational skill, work ethic and high IQ based on his days of Air Force Preparatory, being a college walk-on and then earning “team captain” and having a 3.55 GPA in engineering at Clemson—a very good academic school. He needs to be CEO at TCU football so maybe don’t worry about his sputtering offense this year.
Tony Elliott, age 41, Clemson AHC/OC/TE
“After attending the United States Air Force Academy Preparatory School as a football recruit in 1997, Elliott played college football at Clemson University under head coach Tommy Bowden. He came to Clemson in the fall of 1999 as a walk-on. He was selected team captain in 2003, a rare accomplishment for a walk-on. He finished his career at Clemson with 4 letters and 44 games with 4 starts. Elliott graduated with a bachelor's degree in industrial engineering from Clemson University in 2002 with a team-high 3.55 GPA. Upon graduation, he worked for Michelin North America for two years.
In December 2017, Elliott was the recipient of the Broyles Award, presented to the top assistant coach in college football.”
2006–2007 South Carolina State (WR) 2008–2010 Furman (WR) 2011–2014 Clemson (RB) 2015–2019 Clemson (co-OC/RB) 2020 Clemson (OC/RB) 2021–present Clemson (AHC/OC/TE)
I don't like the idea of hiring someone who was just fired, kind of like I don't like buying stocks that just missed earnings. And if you're interviewing him, are you interviewing Orgeron too?Does Fuente become a candidate for us now?
No. Next question.Does Fuente become a candidate for us now?
Not sure that's a fair comparison, since Orgeron has some off field baggage that Fuente as far as I know does not.I don't like the idea of hiring someone who was just fired, kind of like I don't like buying stocks that just missed earnings. And if you're interviewing him, are you interviewing Orgeron too?
I like Fuente, but he would need to have gone somewhere else and been successful - kinda like what Sonny already did.
No I did not say it is a qualification. I am suggesting a team-high 3.55 GPA in engineering at a very good school while playing football suggests he has a well functioning brain, significantly above mediocre—high IQ with good time management skills and ambition, and I like that—good assets for a CEO football coach. Meaningful information to me, but if you don’t respect that accomplishment as pertinent....I’m sorry... but did you just cite someone’s college gpa as qualification for a P5 college head coaching position?
I have only read some bio, so only surface info but suggesting good CEO traits. He was very busy and accomplished in college and then worked at Michelin North America. He is currently Assistant Head Coach for a national champion head coach. Same stuff I have posted here twice before so excuse me. Tony Elliott’s bio suggests motivation, leadership, organizational skill, work ethic and high IQ based on his days of Air Force Preparatory, being a college walk-on and then earning “team captain” and having a 3.55 GPA in engineering at Clemson—a very good academic school. He needs to be CEO at TCU football so maybe don’t worry about his sputtering offense this year. CEO being what some here disparage Gary for maybe lacking in, and applaud in Saban.
Tony Elliott, age 41, Clemson AHC/OC/TE
“After attending the United States Air Force Academy Preparatory School as a football recruit in 1997, Elliott played college football at Clemson University under head coach Tommy Bowden. He came to Clemson in the fall of 1999 as a walk-on. He was selected team captain in 2003, a rare accomplishment for a walk-on. He finished his career at Clemson with 4 letters and 44 games with 4 starts. Elliott graduated with a bachelor's degree in industrial engineering from Clemson University in 2002 with a team-high 3.55 GPA. Upon graduation, he worked for Michelin North America for two years.
In December 2017, Elliott was the recipient of the Broyles Award, presented to the top assistant coach in college football.”
2006–2007 South Carolina State (WR) 2008–2010 Furman (WR) 2011–2014 Clemson (RB) 2015–2019 Clemson (co-OC/RB) 2020 Clemson (OC/RB) 2021–present Clemson (AHC/OC/TE)
Not surprised that you wouldn't understand the difference between approaching a random stranger to inaccuracy call him a clown when his statement is factual correct, and then that person's response to put the offender in their place.:30 later
Trust me, I am not confused.I don't think you know exactly what attending the USAFA Preparatory Academy really means.
Don't confuse the admission requirements for USAFA admission with those of the Prep Academy.
(Hint: The Prep Academy isn't accredited.)
A thought just occurred to me - we hire Sonny, and then SMU hires Prime Time, hmm...
Trust me, I am not confused.
That’s not a good reason to not want Dykes.That would cause major recruiting issues IMO; one of the reasons I don't want Dykes
If Napier, Campbell, Moore, and Peterson don't want it, who's your guy?
If those 4 guys were on our list (or any 4) and all 4 declined us, that's a problem. that means this coaching search wasn't thought out and the search committee failed.I don't get what you are saying.
that want our job and we can convince to come here? really - who exactly? Because from what I can tell, the other candidates we want have better optionsAssuming he means P-5 from Dykes' time at Cal. Bottom line for me is do we really want to hire a guy whos overall record is 71-61...I think there are better options out there
The prep school program is a good program and has helped a lot of kids. I understand what you’re trying to say but don’t think it’s a good thing to nitpick on."high IQ based on his days of Air Force Preparatory"
Your words.