Frog-in-law1995
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Perhaps I’m misreading it, but it appears he did not. He had him in the final 23 to choose from, but not in his final list of 10.
Perhaps I’m misreading it, but it appears he did not. He had him in the final 23 to choose from, but not in his final list of 10.
The 23 are guys who fit his criteria that can win. The 10 are his personal betting picks.
I have a group of guys that we always get together and do the Tiger vs the Field bet and takes sides.The 23 are guys who fit his criteria that can win. The 10 are his personal betting picks.
A couple cool insights into Augusta. First is from Scott. Fawcett. He teaches course management and strategy. Has a number of your player clients.
https://birdiefire-decade.s3.amazon...+2020.pdf?mc_cid=54517ded56&mc_eid=41aa594791
second is a stats analyst breaking down who CAN win at Augusta. Obviously some of the guys who can will play poorly but since he’s been doing this article I don’t think a winner has come from outside of the group he has said have a shot. Gives some insight into what is required to play well there.
https://www.golfwrx.com/651239/the-...&utm_campaign=GolfWRX_OnSite&utm_content=main
A couple cool insights into Augusta. First is from Scott. Fawcett. He teaches course management and strategy. Has a number of your player clients.
https://birdiefire-decade.s3.amazon...+2020.pdf?mc_cid=54517ded56&mc_eid=41aa594791
second is a stats analyst breaking down who CAN win at Augusta. Obviously some of the guys who can will play poorly but since he’s been doing this article I don’t think a winner has come from outside of the group he has said have a shot. Gives some insight into what is required to play well there.
https://www.golfwrx.com/651239/the-...&utm_campaign=GolfWRX_OnSite&utm_content=main
Thanks for these. Loved Scott Fawcett's breakdown. Couple of really interesting bits there--like taking driver on the 7th because it is so narrow that you're unlikely to put 3-wood in the fairway any more often. And aiming for the middle on 8, 12, and 15 and allowing the natural shot dispersion to dictate scoring opportunities rather than trying to hit the window on one side of the distribution. That has to be a challenging approach for guys used to hunting flags.
On the 23 who can win, I'm a fan of the 175-225 criterion, and the shot trajectory bit was interesting--didn't realize Berger and Cantlay were low-ball hitters. But I'm not convinced distance will be as much of a limiting factor as he claims, given how firm the course is playing and the success guys like Reed, Poulter, Kuchar and Molinari have had at Augusta.
The best iron players have always played well at Augusta. Morikawa is a really good pick.Interesting! Of my 3 that I picked only my SLEEPER, Collin Morikawa he has listed in the top ten. He is unheralded and under the radar. We shall see.
Interestingly, and it sort of defies reason, highly-ranked putters don't often win there outside of Tiger and Nicklaus (and Mickelson / Crenshaw). The guys who are hitting their irons to the right spots on the greens aren't facing the extremely difficult putts as much.Ah, ok. Well, I could see Scott being on a top 23 list I guess. Just never expected his putter to hold up well enough to win.
And on another note, looking over a list of Masters winners. Has it really been 24 years since Tiger lapped the field? And 29(!) since Boom Boom? Good god.
Talking about great golf courses and their designers look no further than our own Colonial and it’s principle designer, Perry Maxwell. Born in Kentucky, grew up in Ardmore, Oklahoma, Maxwell contributed Colonial, Southern Hills, Prairie Dunes and perhaps his favorite Dornick Hills in Ardmore. He is buried just off the 7th fairway on the Dornick Hills (geologic formation) outcrop in Ardmore. It is an amazing layout and a fun course to play. If you ever have the chance to play it don’t pass the opportunity up. Maxwell also contributed to major redesign to Augusta National a few short years (3 or 4 yrs) after it opened. Tough, shot maker courses that rewarded great shots but were also forgiving and fun.
Haven't played Dornick, but I'm glad to see that it is getting a Doak restoration, which I understand he did at a deep discount because of its Maxwell heritage, and in part because he lobbied for the gig, which got the attention of members. For those who want to see more of Dornick Hills:
The Fried Egg also recently did a design video on Maxwell's Old Town Club in Winston-Salem, which doubles as the Wake Forest team course (and which got an update from Coore/Crenshaw recently. Having a Maxwell course down the street is one of many similarities between TCU and Wake, although the Deacs' golf tradition and on-course facilities are a few notches higher. Anyone played Old Town?
wish Colonial had picked Doak...actually wish they had picked Ben to do it given his love for Texas golf and Colonial.
Not really excited about Gil Hanse or his recent rendition of the plans
I'm in!Masters.com has an odd little fantasy-foursome competition that allows for private groups, so I created one for KF.c.
Putt4Purple, I'll let my Bezeidenhout pick ride there. Hope some of you will join me:
https://www.masters.com/en_US/fantasy/join.html?leagueId=14702&leagueJoinToken=bbea0ad100
I am sure Southern Hills did play a role.did the southern hills renovation play into the decision to hire Hanse? I know shady contacted coore Crenshaw and they directed them to ogilvy just because of how busy they were. What ogilvy did at shady is special. Colonial renovations can’t get messed up after what shady just did and that’s coming from a guy who really really didn’t like shady before. Would of had it as my 5th favorite course in town before. Goes at the top now.
If I had unlimited money and was building a course right now, Crenshaw/Coore would be my pick. They've done some outstanding work. Doak is excellent, too. It's just hard to imagine that Texas Tech has a Tom Doak golf course.wish Colonial had picked Doak...actually wish they had picked Ben to do it given his love for Texas golf and Colonial.
Not really excited about Gil Hanse or his recent rendition of the plans
I'm in!
Looks like nearly all of us will be picking the same First Timer and Past Champ, so it will all come down to the American and International picks.
well all the top guys are really good anymore - it comes down to their philosophy about things like moving dirt vs natural terrain, how you implement playability from multiple tees, forced carry vs playing on the ground, etc.If I had unlimited money and was building a course right now, Crenshaw/Coore would be my pick. They've done some outstanding work. Doak is excellent, too. It's just hard to imagine that Texas Tech has a Tom Doak golf course.
I went against the odds a little on the international pick. Went more for recent performance than overall record. Figured I needed to gamble for the win!I debated a while on past champ, but then just took the other as my American. I’ll be surprised if there isn’t a pretty clear favorite in the International player category.