froglash88
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How many handles does Muck have?
You were one of the idiots saying we were going 3-9
So 4-8 and he'd have been a genius??
Bookmarked so I can make fun of you when we don't go 4-8
What are the wins?Bookmarked so I can make fun of you when we don't go 4-8
Well said. Unfortunately, that appears to be the situation. Hope the AD reads this--he's probably the only one who can resolve this.
I remember Andy's first starting season, we lost 5 games in the regular season. Similar to this. So tap the brakes on the season number until the end. After the insane [ steaming pile of Orgeron ] that went down at the end of last season, who knows. Collins could come in and do something crazy, then Max could come back in and match it. Then Reagor could say, "that's it, this is supposed to be my highlight reel" and jump over to corner back and have like monumental numbers of interceptions.
Then the ncaa drops the ban hammer on baylor and Herman gets busted with another stripper. Then Riley goes to the Cowboys Dana gets the OU gig. You never know how [ steaming pile of Orgeron ] will turn out.
Also, why am I out of rum?
LOL. Baylor and SMU have taken our place? After one good season?Not a slide show guys, despite the title looking like one.
Grow them up means we get classes laden with guys who at the time they entered TCU are not FBS caliber players. They do show some potential but no way are they ready to play at this level. We take 2 or three years then finally a few get bigger, faster and skilled enough to play well. A few then make it to the NFL. GP does a great job of developing a handful of players given 3 or 4 years. But a football team is made up of 22 starters, plus kickers. Developing the handful of lesser rated recruits to go with the 4/5* recruits is what OU had done, even Alabama has a few 3* athletes who become stars. Now it looks like Texas finally has the coaching to go along with their fantastic talent.
I had hoped that this was the year we could break through, have a great year and finally start recruiting to build a top-notch program. Three or four 4* and no 5* will not get you to the B12 championship now. Unfortunately we have blown this chance, and Baylor and SMU have taken our place. I have never been so pessimistic about the future of this program. All because GP likes to give his OC a chance to excel. I am tired of the best we can do on recruiting is low 20's, on rare occasions. There is just so good you can get.
Texas can have several bad classes and still succeed. I don't know that TCU can.
When Gary talks about growing them up, I’ve always assumed he meant developing them beyond their abilities. He built his program figuring out ways to get guys to overachieve. If they haven’t grown up yet, it means they aren’t overachieving, yet.How about we find already grown up players to start off with? Or at least more than we’ve been recruiting. This is the most lame excuse and it’s getting old (unlike our players apparently).
When Gary talks about growing them up, I’ve always assumed he meant developing them beyond their abilities. He built his program figuring out ways to get guys to overachieve. If they haven’t grown up yet, it means they aren’t overachieving, yet.
If we had a roster full of five star talent like Bama, I doubt you’d hear him mentioning it much. But that’s never gonna happen.
Out of sheer curiosity, just how bad has the drop off in quality of players coming out of HS been these last few years? By this I mean the lack of fundamentals now seen vs. the kids coming out of HS just 5-10 years ago.i think we would find if the frogs have 85 5-star recruits there would still be plenty of room for growth, saban doesn't mention it because at bama you either get on board with the program or they run your ass off
Out of sheer curiosity, just how bad has the drop off in quality of players coming out of HS been these last few years? By this I mean the lack of fundamentals now seen vs. the kids coming out of HS just 5-10 years ago.
If we are recruiting kids that run fast, but don't know the fundamentals of catching a football or the footwork and shoulder/hip work involved in running a good pattern and shedding a defender, then we're spending a lot of time trying to get them to a productive level rather than having them learn the offense. There are only so many hours available to practice, and we're evidently doing something other than learning plays...
The thing that I have always hated about “grow them up” is that it means they suck until they have grown up.
how do other teams find ways to play sound football with young / less talented guys?
Grow them up is no different that win by one. It's a Garyism that he says at every opportunity. He says it when we're 8-0 and he says it when we're 4-4.
Some of you hate that he says these things and that's fine but it's not really meant to mean anything other than we have to keep getting better every day, which is the job of every coach and player on every team. It's just the phrasing GP uses. It's not him making excuses, it's just him talking about his job.
What's the point of anything Gary says? We don't have the technology to know that.It's actually one of the sayings that is least annoying. The most annoying for me is the not discussing anything about injuries but always seeming eager to let everyone know how many kids are injured, and often grossly exagerrating the number for more effect like last year and this spring. What's the point other than to create an excuse?