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Mean Purple

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Zebra Frog said:
Hopefully, this thread will prove to be informative and educational. I hope you have a good time reading it. I checked with Wes before I started posting and he thought it would be great. I will try include some that everybody can get correct, and some "stumpers" on things you won't really know.
Now that I have posted a couple of scenarios and it looks like it's something you enjoy, I would like to post the "Major" rules changes for this year. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail on some of then, I just want you to be aware of them if and when it comes up in a game. You might even be able to impress your buddy sitting next to you be explaining it.

1. Knee pads must be covered by pants and must completely cover the knees. If they don't, the player will be sent to the sideline until it is corrected. There shouldn't be any more short pants like there has been in the past. He doesn't have to miss a play if the Coach takes a timeout and it gets corrected during that TO. T-shirts hanging down, etc. are included in this.
Captains can have a "C" on their jersey.

2. Big emphasis on teams making sure they have contrasting jerseys. You probably won't see any grey tops with grey numbers, even though they may have a border around the number.

3. After a TD, the play clock will go to 40 seconds. This means that the scoring team will need to be ready to get their team on the field for the TRY. Sometimes, Replay might take longer to verify the score. If the Replay Official takes a little long, the Referee can pump the clock back to 25 seconds. If the RO takes longer than that, chances are the play will be reviewed.
After a kickoff (Free Kick), the play clock will also start at 40 seconds. This should reduce the stalling of teams on the sideline. It takes the Referee out of having to make the ball ready.

4. Probably the biggest change is that if a Team B player makes a fair catch of a Free Kick behind their own 25-yard line, the ball will be placed at the 25. Data shows that kickoffs that aren't run back are safer, but team has the choice.

5. If a TD is scored during a down in which time in the 4th period expires, the TRY should not be attempted unless the points would affect the outcome of the game. However, the Coach still has the option. For example: the kicker may set a new school record if he kicks the extra point.

6. Major changes in blocking below the waist. No change for linemen that are completely inside the tackle box. All other Team A players are allowed to block below the waist if the force of the initial contact is directed from the front. There are 3 exceptions:
a. Team A players may not block below the waist when the block occurs 5 yards or more beyond the neutral zone. This includes defensive players.
b. Players outside the tackle box at the snap, or any time after the snap, or in motion at the snap may not block below the waist toward the initial position of the ball at the snap.
c. Once the ball has left the tackle box, a player may not block below the waist toward his own end line.

7. Leaping - is a foul if a defensive player moves forward and tries to block a field goal or try by leaving his fee and leaping into the plane directly above the frame of the body of an opponent. Key words are "moves forward." Doesn't have to make contact! You may remember a couple of years ago a player ran forward, timed it perfectly and jumped over the center to block a field goal. Great athletic play, but is illegal. It is NOT a foul if they are stationary within 1 yard of LOS when the ball was snapped. On scrimmage kicks, the players can't try to block a punt by leaving his feet and leaping into the plane directly above the frame of the body of an opponent.

8. Penalties for personal fouls and UNS fouls can be enforced on succeeding spot is the points are successful. In year's past, they had to decline the penalty to keep the points.

9. A 10-second runoff has been added on Replay reviews. Has to occur with less than 1 minute remaining in either half. You may never see this used. If it happens, I will explain it at that time. Either team may use a timeout to avoid the runoff.

10. Targeting - OMG. No rules were changed, but it it's close it will be called.

11. Rule used to say if Passer's hand or arm was moving forward and ball came loose, it was a pass. Now, it's just the hand.

Others, but these are most important.
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AND you have to remember all of these changes, on top of all the other rules, and apply them at light speed. Good luck to you, Sir. Have a great and safe season.
 
Z

Zebra Frog

KMA
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
 
RollToad

RollToad

Baylor is Trash.
Zebra Frog said:
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
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Has to be A.
 
M

Mean Purple

Active Member
Zebra Frog said:
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
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B. Game is over. (Total guess based a change you mentioned. Actually hoping my guess somehow relates to that rule.)

edit: gotta wonder if the fact that there were more than "under 3 seconds" on the clock (spiking the ball rule) somehow plays into this and A is the answer. But I guessed B and will take my medicine.
 
B

BigPurple87

Active Member
Zebra Frog said:
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
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By replay do you mean the refs reviewed the play?
 
Frog-in-law1995

Frog-in-law1995

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Replay only used if the outcome of the game is in question. Team A has to be a TD or less behind or tied to put time back on at the end of the game. So B.
 
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satis1103

satis1103

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A. BUT - if it had been a replay where the call was overturned, and the correct play would have kept the clock rolling (i.e. the pass is questionably completed inbounds, refs say incomplete, review says complete and WR on ground inbounds short of end zone) then there is a 10 second runoff.
 
B

BigPurple87

Active Member
Zebra Frog said:
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
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I have a feeling you are going to say b is correct but that's not the case it is A. It doesn't matter if the call affects the game or not. That Texas game is difficult to use as an example because I believe they made the wrong call there because I think they time did expire, if it hadn't the call would have been correct
 
Limp Lizard

Limp Lizard

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Got a question for Zebra about leaping. In the Baylor game the announcers about had an aneurysm with a missed FG by Baylor, saying that TCU was guilty of leaping. To me...TCU fan me...it looked like the Baylor fan moved under the TCU player. If a player jumps forward bout would land cleanly but the kicking team player undercuts him, is it a foul?
And thanks for this thread...really helps these slow days move faster.
 
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Zebra Frog

KMA
Limp Lizard said:
Got a question for Zebra about leaping. In the Baylor game the announcers about had an aneurysm with a missed FG by Baylor, saying that TCU was guilty of leaping. To me...TCU fan me...it looked like the Baylor fan moved under the TCU player. If a player jumps forward bout would land cleanly but the kicking team player undercuts him, is it a foul?
And thanks for this thread...really helps these slow days move faster.
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In 2016, it was not a foul if the offensive player initiates contact against the player that leaps.
In 2017 if he ran forward and jumped, he was guilty of leaping whether there was contact or not.
If a Special Teams Coach doesn’t teach his guys to not run forward, he needs to be demoted.
 
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Zebra Frog

KMA
Zebra Frog said:
Question No. 3
Second and Goal on the B-10. Team A is trailing by 14 points with 8 seconds remaining in the 4th quarter. Team A's QB throws an incomplete pass near the sideline and time expires on the play Replays show that when the ball hit the ground there was 1 second remaining on the game clock.
RULING:
A. Put 1 second back on the clock and Team A now has Third and Goal on the B-10.
B. Game is over.
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ANSWER:
B Since Team A was behind by more than 8 points, no time is put back on the clock.
 

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