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Why beating OU will (likely) not cost the Big 12 a second BCS Bowl.

HoustonHornedFrog

Active Member
Because OU won't get an invite even if they do win. The opening premis is that Kent State, currently sitting at No. 17 in the BCS wins the MAC championship and moves up to no. 16 in the BCS.

Kent State being in the top 16 (and having the Big East champion ranked lower) would make them an automatic BCS qualifier but also means that Oklahoma would have virtually no chance at being an at large even if they win on Saturday against TCU.

With ND in the mix this year, if KS gets an automatic bid, you will already have a situation in which 9 of the 10 BCS spots are taken by automatic qualifiers.

BCS no. 1 and 2 will be ND and winner of SEC championship game - two spots taken.
Big 12, Big East, Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC champtions get automatic bids - 5 more taken, 7 total.
If Kent State gets into the top 16 (and the Big East chamption is ranked lower) - 1 more spot, 8 total.

The automatic qualifier rules also say that if there is a team ranked in the top 3 or 4 of the BCS rankings from a school in one of the AQ conferences which is not the conference champion the no. 3 or no. 4 is automatically selected (but not 3 and 4 if that occurs). If the loser of the SEC championship falls below Oregon, then the final rankings will have ND 1, SEC winner No. 2, Florida and Oregon 3 & 4, so the higher of Florida or Oregon will be an automatic qualifier (Fl currently is above Oregon). So 9 spots are already taken.

With only one more spot available, does anyone believe that a two loss Oklahoma team (which will likely be ranked no higher than 10) would be picked over either Oregon or Florida sitting at no. 4 in the BCS?
Not going to happen. SO:

Frogs can sleep easy knowing that when they knock off OU they won't be costing the confernece any money by not having two teams in BCS bowls this year.
 

10 Key Frog

Active Member
Does only one of 3/4 get automatic. I thought it was worded as any non Conf champ in top 4 gets an automatic. Which in this case would mean ND, Florida, Oregon, and Kent State already get automatic bids taking up all 4 at large spots.
 

BigEasyFrog

Active Member
Would obviously be cool if our conference had 2 BCS teams, but we're going to a bowl game regardless, I want to see us beat one of the best teams in the conference regardless of the scenario.
 

NubomTurk

Tier 1
Because if OU goes to a BCS bowl, then it will bump everyone in the Big 12 (including TCU) up a bowl game. So yes, we should care.

I get what you're saying, but I'd rather beat OU and go the the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl than lose to OU and go to the Holiday Bowl. (Or whatever one spot lower bowl is out there.)
 

itsalizard

Active Member
Because if OU goes to a BCS bowl, then it will bump everyone in the Big 12 (including TCU) up a bowl game. So yes, we should care.
Haha! We should lose to drop a slot so OU can go to a BCS game and bump us a slot? I have now read it all here. Kicking OU out of the BCS slot sounds good to me. Sheesh.
 

Planks

Active Member
I didn't say we should lose to OU. In the scenario that we do happen to lose to OU, then it is in TCU's best interest if OU goes on to play in a BCS Bowl.
 

TopFrog

Lifelong Frog
If we don't beat OU it won't matter about our bowl situation other than we are going to one. Anything but Pinstripe please.
 

Leap Frog

Full Member
If we don't beat OU it won't matter about our bowl situation other than we are going to one. Anything but Pinstripe please.

I want to beat OU at all costs about the BCS, but we better get some pressure on Jones so he can't wait forever for a receiver to get open. Oh yeah! Let,s also hope the same refs who "worked" the OU-OSU game last Saturday are nowhere near ACS.
 

bcsbuster

Full Member
I want to beat OU at all costs about the BCS, but we better get some pressure on Jones so he can't wait forever for a receiver to get open. Oh yeah! Let,s also hope the same refs who "worked" the OU-OSU game last Saturday are nowhere near ACS.

I was at the OU/OSU game after driving from the UT/TCU game. I wear Purple and Crimson colored glasses. What was wrong in the officiating at the OU game ?
 

Leap Frog

Full Member
I was at the OU/OSU game after driving from the UT/TCU game. I wear Purple and Crimson colored glasses. What was wrong in the officiating at the OU game ?

If you wear crimson, you won't agree that the officiating was skewed in favor of OU. On tv, many holding and blocks in the back by Sooners were ignored. On the long punt return, an obvious block in the back at midfield was not called, and the announcers commented on it. I have no dog in the fight, so it really makes no difference to me, but just looks like a BCS berth was playing a part in the contest.
 
I do wonder if our best shot at the Alamo Bowl is if we lose, ironically. Still not likely, but if Kent St gets upset, then OU will be in the BCS, UT in the Cotton and the Alamo would choose between an 8-4 (or possibly 7-5) OSU, 7-5, Tech and 7-5 TCU. If OU loses or Kent St gets the autobid, UT seems most likely for the Alamo, I'd guess.
 

Delmonico

Semi-Omnipotent Being
Kent losing to 11-1 NIU is a distinct possibility. The 2 teams have 5 common opponents, and Northern had the superior result in 4 of them. Both of their losses were to subpar AQ schools, the difference being NIU really should have beaten Iowa (Iowa scored a late TD to win by 1) whereas Kent got their doors blown off by Kentucky.
 

DangerFrog

Member
Both of their losses were to subpar AQ schools, the difference being NIU really should have beaten Iowa (Iowa scored a late TD to win by 1) whereas Kent got their doors blown off by Kentucky.
This would mean out of 2 Kentucky wins, one of them was against a BCS team... /,\
 
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