Mean Purple
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ASU, ISU, BYU and The Dancing Primes would suit well in the top half of that league.
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82 Frog Fever
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Ignoring your silliness, and looking at just the facts.
There are 5-6 teams in the SEC that would be favored to win the B12 outright if the season started today.
There’s no comparison, the B12 is mediocre at best.
In head to head competition the B12 barely won 1/3 of its games versus other Power conferences. Just the average wining percentage of other power conferences is 54%, but the Big12 is 35%. …so we’re certainly below average versus other power conferences.
Mean Purple
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Stats are for nerds who don't make teams.
Wow, I just totally disagree.
ASU did play and beat an SEC team, I'll give them that. They beat MSU, who is currently 0-7 in the SEC, by a TD at home. Heck, the one Big 10 team the Dancing Primes played was the 11th place team in that league. They lost by 18.
I think you put any of those four in the SEC and I think they are all struggling to get 6 wins on the season.
Chongo94
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This is completely inaccurate. Maybe in certain years you can make this argument but this year, where the entire conference looks average, nope. And I’m not a huge SEC believer or anything and feel they’ve been pretty average too this year.
82 Frog Fever
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These aren’t stats you fool! They are actual outcomes of games, and the B12 is subpar against their peers.
The B12 isn’t even playing very good Power teams, and they still can’t win.
A 35% winning percentage against other power conferences is laughable.
The B12 is a subpar minor league Power conference, and it needs to get fixed quickly.
Mean Purple
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Aggie just lost to Auburn.
Bama lost to Vandy and OU.
Tennessee lost to Arkansas.
Ole Piss lost to Kentucky.
Those are losses to just flat out bad teams that would not be any better if they were in the Big 12.
As for the team CU lost to: In the Big 10, it's a one game difference bunched tight from 7th place to 12th.
People act like the middle of the SEC is far superior to elsewhere. It simply is not.
Mean Purple
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Stick to pickle ball.
And? So they beat up on each other, that's what happens in interleague play. To some degree you've got to ignore the records and not just assume that every team with 5-6 losses is a bad team. And you can always cherry pick games to make a point (admittedly, on both sides).
It's a different level of football. Bigger, stronger, faster players on average across the rosters. If you put any of those 4 teams in the SEC they are struggling for a win each week, and some weeks they don't have much of a chance.
An-Cap Frog
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If we played all these at the end of the season, I'd say the following games would flip:
Pitt (WVU)
Arkansas
Illinois
Washington State
SMU (BYU)
So the conference could be 6-8
82 Frog Fever
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You can say whatever you want to try and rationalize this, the fact is we lost.
The fact is if the season began today, all these conferences have multiple teams that would arguably be favored to WIN the B12.
BIG- Oregon, OSU, Penn St, Indiana,
SEC- Texas, Alabama, Miss., Ga., Tenn, A&M, S Carolina.
ACC- (ND), Miami, SMU, Clemson.
Every Power conference has at least 3 teams that would be favored to win the B12
That means the B12 is at a disadvantage with money (NIL), branding, bowls, recruiting, and talent against these conferences. If this continues to be a trend, it becomes more or less permanent.
Mean Purple
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I don't think you've looked at the rosters that well.
It's not going to be fixed. Say what you want, but conferences are carried by their flagship schools. The Big 12 doesn't have any of those anymore, and they aren't coming back.
It's not a G5 league, but it's so far behind the Big 10 and SEC that you can't even put them in the same category anymore. It's the P2, the next 2, and then everyone else.
Well, I know it isn't an exact science and these kinds of rankings can be flawed, but the Top 25 includes.....
13 SEC schools
6 Big 10 Schools
5 ACC schools
and Notre Dame
0 Big 12 schools
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82 Frog Fever
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The B12 is miles behind the ACC. They have 3 teams + ND that would all be favored to win the B12 right now. That puts them miles ahead of us in just about everything needed to field winning teams, money (NIL), branding, bowls, recruiting, and talent.
I don't think they are miles ahead at all, and Notre Dame is not in the ACC.
I think the B12 and ACC are about the same. The ACC might be a bit better at the very top, but I think the B12 is deeper.
82 Frog Fever
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I agree and this is only year 1. Imagine what happens by year 10.
We are also currently far behind the ACC with 3-4 better teams than anything the B12 has, and the B12 has certainly lost ground to the Group.
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
I believe his name is "Future Cowboys QB."
I already know what's going to happen.
If you really love TCU football, you're just going to have to lower the bar from where it probably was before (unless you just want to be perennially disappointed), because in this league and more importantly with free agency/pay for play, we aren't ever getting back to where we once were not long ago.
