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Limey Frog

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Completely agree and candidly I have no issue with what SMU did to us. Their old coach is back we have rolled them for the last decade and we allowed it to happen. If we had a chance to do that to Texas or Oklahoma we would do it with a smile on our face.
We got embarrassed. That's on us. It's not Rhett Lashlee's job to worry about TCU football looking ridiculous, it's Sonny Dykes's. Hopefully next year he can stay on the field for all 60 minutes, and his team can start playing actual football in minute 1.
 

Wexahu

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We got embarrassed. That's on us. It's not Rhett Lashlee's job to worry about TCU football looking ridiculous, it's Sonny Dykes's. Hopefully next year he can stay on the field for all 60 minutes, and his team can start playing actual football in minute 1.
The built-in disdain for our head coach is bizarre. It's like the bar for him is higher than anyone else's just because.....well, just because he's Sonny Dykes. I guess he doesn't have that super cool or super tough persona or something, I honestly don't know what it is. But you can definitely sense that vibe with a lot of TCU fans, including you.

I saw today where in the past three seasons TCU is T1st for most wins in the Big 12 conference. That's not bad, right? By the way our fans treat Dykes you'd think we'd be about 6th or 7th.

I mean, we're not going to win all the time or look good in every game, we'll have some stinkers and embarrassments along the way, just like EVERY single team/coach does over time.
 

Limey Frog

Full Member
The built-in disdain for our head coach is bizarre. It's like the bar for him is higher than anyone else's just because.....well, just because he's Sonny Dykes. I guess he doesn't have that super cool or super tough persona or something, I honestly don't know what it is. But you can definitely sense that vibe with a lot of TCU fans, including you.

I saw today where in the past three seasons TCU is T1st for most wins in the Big 12 conference. That's not bad, right? By the way our fans treat Dykes you'd think we'd be about 6th or 7th.

I mean, we're not going to win all the time or look good in every game, we'll have some stinkers and embarrassments along the way, just like EVERY single team/coach does over time.
I don't have disdain for Dykes. I think he's a good guy doing a fairly good job in a really difficult spot (i.e. taking over for GP--being "the guy after the guy," as they say). I don't know what I've ever said that suggests I have disdain for him.

TCU football ran out on the field at Gerald Ford Stadium completely unready to play, committed many, many unforced errors in a blowout loss, and our head coach let the situation get to him emotionally and disgraced himself publicly. Are any of these statements disputed, and is it possible to hold all of them as true without having disdain for Sonny Dykes?
 

An-Cap Frog

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I don't have disdain for Dykes. I think he's a good guy doing a fairly good job in a really difficult spot (i.e. taking over for GP--being "the guy after the guy," as they say). I don't know what I've ever said that suggests I have disdain for him.

TCU football ran out on the field at Gerald Ford Stadium completely unready to play, committed many, many unforced errors in a blowout loss, and our head coach let the situation get to him emotionally and disgraced himself publicly. Are any of these statements disputed, and is it possible to hold all of them as true without having disdain for Sonny Dykes?
IMHO the biggest area of concern was not having an OL ready for the 2024 season, but outside of that, I really don't have any complaints. If you think about it, Kendal Briles did an amazing job creating the offense that we had without a significant run game. He constantly worked with the personnel to get something going and made changes during the season. I think Avalos is building a beast of a defense. We still might be a year away, but we should be competing for the best defense in the conference sooner than later. 2025 is a hard schedule, based on 2024 output, so I think 8-4 is expected. I haven't looked at the roster, but I would suspect that we should be pretty dang good in two years. We should challenge for a playoff spot and have double digit wins.
 

FroggleRock

Active Member
IMHO the biggest area of concern was not having an OL ready for the 2024 season, but outside of that, I really don't have any complaints. If you think about it, Kendal Briles did an amazing job creating the offense that we had without a significant run game. He constantly worked with the personnel to get something going and made changes during the season. I think Avalos is building a beast of a defense. We still might be a year away, but we should be competing for the best defense in the conference sooner than later. 2025 is a hard schedule, based on 2024 output, so I think 8-4 is expected. I haven't looked at the roster, but I would suspect that we should be pretty dang good in two years. We should challenge for a playoff spot and have double digit wins.
Not just not having it ready, but believing it was going to be good and having solid 2-deep.

Our coaches seem to struggle with recognizing who and what positions are actually doing well in the offseason. Three years in a row they’ve either hyped up a position group that fell well below the supposed expectations, or started someone whose backup outperformed them.
 

SW toad

Active Member
Not just not having it ready, but believing it was going to be good and having solid 2-deep.

Our coaches seem to struggle with recognizing who and what positions are actually doing well in the offseason. Three years in a row they’ve either hyped up a position group that fell well below the supposed expectations, or started someone whose backup outperformed them.
As most of you have alluded to, the OL/DL were woefully unprepared the last two seasons (or more). I've seen the thread about Dan Quinn praising Brandon Coleman. There have been no comments regarding Brandon Coleman's performance in '23 vs '22. In '23 Coleman and others on OL were a shell of their former selves. This issue somewhat goes back to the "Co-Offensive Coordinator/Offensive line coach" AJ Ricker. It is almost as if in '24 the whole lot of them Harris, Deery, Nichols and especially Bruno and Brockermeyer were regularly getting blown back by defensive lines with 280 Lb DTs. Dykes needs to get connected with Ricker and explain this stuff can't continue.

Another position group that was sub mediocre were DBs. If that Broughton guy gets torched 4-5 times, you don't continue to play him, you stick a greenhorn in and replace him. Could it have gotten any worse with a soph or true frosh. I don't think so. A whole other post is LBS. Obiazor & Max Carroll and the Lacrosse guy whiffed on at least 45-55 easy tackles and it is obvious they have not been coached on how to fill the running lanes. LOM, bring back Kyle Clifton, Robert Lyles and Daryl Washington as Defensive Analysts to re-introduce a house of pain mentality and how to play Linebacker.
 

Double D

Tier 1
DEAD ON!
As most of you have alluded to, the OL/DL were woefully unprepared the last two seasons (or more). I've seen the thread about Dan Quinn praising Brandon Coleman. There have been no comments regarding Brandon Coleman's performance in '23 vs '22. In '23 Coleman and others on OL were a shell of their former selves. This issue somewhat goes back to the "Co-Offensive Coordinator/Offensive line coach" AJ Ricker. It is almost as if in '24 the whole lot of them Harris, Deery, Nichols and especially Bruno and Brockermeyer were regularly getting blown back by defensive lines with 280 Lb DTs. Dykes needs to get connected with Ricker and explain this stuff can't continue.

Another position group that was sub mediocre were DBs. If that Broughton guy gets torched 4-5 times, you don't continue to play him, you stick a greenhorn in and replace him. Could it have gotten any worse with a soph or true frosh. I don't think so. A whole other post is LBS. Obiazor & Max Carroll and the Lacrosse guy whiffed on at least 45-55 easy tackles and it is obvious they have not been coached on how to fill the running lanes. LOM, bring back Kyle Clifton, Robert Lyles and Daryl Washington as Defensive Analysts to re-introduce a house of pain mentality and how to play Linebacker.
 

Traveling Frog

Active Member
Not just not having it ready, but believing it was going to be good and having solid 2-deep.

Our coaches seem to struggle with recognizing who and what positions are actually doing well in the offseason. Three years in a row they’ve either hyped up a position group that fell well below the supposed expectations, or started someone whose backup outperformed them.
Agreed, we need to realize that we are playing the development game so we are another year away. Coaches need to put the players in place next year, for 26. Our OL and RB are likely going to be bad to start the year
 

FroggleRock

Active Member
As most of you have alluded to, the OL/DL were woefully unprepared the last two seasons (or more). I've seen the thread about Dan Quinn praising Brandon Coleman. There have been no comments regarding Brandon Coleman's performance in '23 vs '22. In '23 Coleman and others on OL were a shell of their former selves. This issue somewhat goes back to the "Co-Offensive Coordinator/Offensive line coach" AJ Ricker. It is almost as if in '24 the whole lot of them Harris, Deery, Nichols and especially Bruno and Brockermeyer were regularly getting blown back by defensive lines with 280 Lb DTs. Dykes needs to get connected with Ricker and explain this stuff can't continue.

Another position group that was sub mediocre were DBs. If that Broughton guy gets torched 4-5 times, you don't continue to play him, you stick a greenhorn in and replace him. Could it have gotten any worse with a soph or true frosh. I don't think so. A whole other post is LBS. Obiazor & Max Carroll and the Lacrosse guy whiffed on at least 45-55 easy tackles and it is obvious they have not been coached on how to fill the running lanes. LOM, bring back Kyle Clifton, Robert Lyles and Daryl Washington as Defensive Analysts to re-introduce a house of pain mentality and how to play Linebacker.




I’ve been venting about Ricker for the last two seasons. He’s had to rely so heavily on transfers because only a couple of the younger guys have even remotely gotten to the point of being an able player on this team. Well this year is it. He will have over 30+ OL at his disposal. No more excuses of not being able to fill a two-deep rotation. If he can’t manage to put together a viable 2-deep that can run the ball and block consistently, he needs to go. I don’t care how good of a recruiter he is. What’s the point if he can’t develop the talent he gets?

I think critiquing the DBs is a little unfair. Especially at corner. Not only did we lose our two starters for the season, a week before the season started we lost our CB coach for some reason that was never explained (must have been pretty bad). I agree with you about JT though, he was just not a good cover corner. I thought McIver did a great job when he took over for him as the starter. And James was very good. And I’ll give the safeties a pass this season as they are learning one of the hardest positions in this defense. Clark and Camara were solid, and I thought Jamal improved at the end.

But I 100% agree at LB. That group has been abysmal the last two seasons. And I have no idea why our staff is so infatuated with Obiazor. He can’t cover, he CONSTANTLY overshoots his lane assignments, and misses tackles. I thought Carroll looked much better than him this season, especially at the end. But overall, that’s a position that needs a shake up.
 

SW toad

Active Member


I’ve been venting about Ricker for the last two seasons. He’s had to rely so heavily on transfers because only a couple of the younger guys have even remotely gotten to the point of being an able player on this team. Well this year is it. He will have over 30+ OL at his disposal. No more excuses of not being able to fill a two-deep rotation. If he can’t manage to put together a viable 2-deep that can run the ball and block consistently, he needs to go. I don’t care how good of a recruiter he is. What’s the point if he can’t develop the talent he gets?

I think critiquing the DBs is a little unfair. Especially at corner. Not only did we lose our two starters for the season, a week before the season started we lost our CB coach for some reason that was never explained (must have been pretty bad). I agree with you about JT though, he was just not a good cover corner. I thought McIver did a great job when he took over for him as the starter. And James was very good. And I’ll give the safeties a pass this season as they are learning one of the hardest positions in this defense. Clark and Camara were solid, and I thought Jamal improved at the end.

But I 100% agree at LB. That group has been abysmal the last two seasons. And I have no idea why our staff is so infatuated with Obiazor. He can’t cover, he CONSTANTLY overshoots his lane assignments, and misses tackles. I thought Carroll looked much better than him this season, especially at the end. But overall, that’s a position that needs a shake up.
Certainly, Ricker has been hampered by lax recruiting in'20 & '21 on the OL. It's interesting that you posted this about AJ. I'm sure he is a likeable guy. It appears he has had good input and results in recruiting over last 2 cycles. When I posted yesterday, I thought subcons., what is keeping this guy around? Nano... recruiting. Perhaps he should be promoted to recruiting guru rather than teaching boys how to be men and bloody the opponents DL. I know, a little overboard but rather than go through the machinations of blocking sled drills and whatever other drills he's got them going through, maybe he should have these big boys go through variations of the Frank Kush years at ASU. Or better, Bear Bryant's junction boys training. You really have to wonder if Dykes/Briles/Ricker and company have had conversations with their players about CTE. If they have not, they need to.

I agree with the DB assessment. I forgot about the DB coach exit at start of the season. Man, it really showed in the first part of October and all of September.

Think about the LBs Obiazor from safety to LB. Shad Banks from WR to LB. It is crystal clear which one had the better short area quickness and who was better at running lane defense. One may have more tackles than the other, but it really doesn't matter if the tackles are 10-20 yds down the field. Check out the Forced fumbles, Sacks, interceptions of these LBs playing in the middle of the field, in the middle of the action. It looks like a combined (for both players!!)2 interceptions and forced fumbles over the last 3 years. LOM = Lord Oh Mighty.
 

Limey Frog

Full Member
IMHO the biggest area of concern was not having an OL ready for the 2024 season, but outside of that, I really don't have any complaints. If you think about it, Kendal Briles did an amazing job creating the offense that we had without a significant run game. He constantly worked with the personnel to get something going and made changes during the season. I think Avalos is building a beast of a defense. We still might be a year away, but we should be competing for the best defense in the conference sooner than later. 2025 is a hard schedule, based on 2024 output, so I think 8-4 is expected. I haven't looked at the roster, but I would suspect that we should be pretty dang good in two years. We should challenge for a playoff spot and have double digit wins.
This ended up being true, but things started very poorly and might have spiraled out of control against a tougher schedule. There's reason for some optimism from the back end of the season, though. Dykes and Co. have started to answer the biggest questions, even if they raised more of those questions themselves.
 
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