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USC and UCLA to the Big 10?

LVH

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Well, one thing is true: With the death (Well, they are coughing up blood!) of the PAC, that leaves four Power Conferences. Makes auto-bids pretty danged easy...

Was listening to BIGXII radio just now (driving to Fannin, TX for some delicious McMillan's BBQ!) and they were touching on most of the points covered here. Strangely, they were pimping the idea that the BIGXII should be offering Oregon and Washington, which is crazy given their locations and Media Market size. They also pimped Utah, because they go so well with BYU and it would lock up that coveted SLC Media Market.

Hello?!? PHOENIX?!@ Strange they left that out...

Considering that BIGXII Radio is a wholly owned subsidiary of ESPN, it's like listening to Tokyo Rose in 1942 to figure out what's going on...
Starting in 2024 the concept of 4 power conferences will be Dead. It will be 2, maybe 3 based on the ACC.
 

Froginbedford

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Interesting. Didn’t know that. However, Alaska remains the easternmost and westernmost (and, obviously, northernmost) state.
Despite its name, the international date line has no legal international status and countries are free to choose the dates that they observe. While the date line generally runs north to south from pole to pole, it zigzags around political borders such as eastern Russia and Alaska's Aleutian Islands.
Technically not true. Hawaii has 137 islands — some West of the IDL.
As stated above, the date line is arbitrary in relation to various national needs....It does not rigidly follow the 180th longitude....In 1999, Kiribati changed the date line from dividing that country into two days zones to one zone ostensibly for business purposes, but with the added ability to attract hipsters who wanted to vacation there where they could be among the first to see the year 2000 under the mistaken impression that they would have such a personal brag to friends (not really the first year of the new millenium...calendar years started at 1 CE, not 0...therefore the new century began at 2001)....Guam, a US territory is west date line and closer to Japan and Korea than to the United States, and can be considered the farthest east part of the US....American Samoa is east of the date line....Name those Hawaiian islands that are west of the date line....This is all nerdy, but it's about as stimulating a conversation as speculation over whether Colorado State, Tulane, SMU, Rice, Tulsa, University of North Texas, Arkansas State, and Memphis will be joining the Big 12 to create a 20-team mini-mega-conference....
 
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froginaustin

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Despite its name, the international date line has no legal international status and countries are free to choose the dates that they observe. While the date line generally runs north to south from pole to pole, it zigzags around political borders such as eastern Russia and Alaska's Aleutian Islands.

As stated above, the date line is arbitrary in relation to various national needs....It does not rigidly follow the 180th longitude....In 1999, Kiribati changed the date line from dividing that country into two days zones to one zone ostensibly for business purposes, but with the added ability to attract hipsters who wanted to vacation there where they could be among the first to see the year 2000 under the mistaken impression that they would have such a personal brag to friends (not really the first year of the new millenium...calendar years started at 1 CE, not 0...therefore the new century began at 2001)....Guam, a US territory is west date line and closer to Japan and Korea than to the United States, and can be considered the farthest east part of the US....American Samoa is east of the date line....Name those Hawaiian islands that are west of the date line....
Wake?

Midway?
 

Frog-in-law1995

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Despite its name, the international date line has no legal international status and countries are free to choose the dates that they observe. While the date line generally runs north to south from pole to pole, it zigzags around political borders such as eastern Russia and Alaska's Aleutian Islands.

Eastern and Western hemispheres aren’t defined by the IDL. They’re defined by the prime meridian and the antimeridian, 180° from the prime meridian. Alaska sits on both sides of the latter.
 
Despite its name, the international date line has no legal international status and countries are free to choose the dates that they observe. While the date line generally runs north to south from pole to pole, it zigzags around political borders such as eastern Russia and Alaska's Aleutian Islands.

As stated above, the date line is arbitrary in relation to various national needs....It does not rigidly follow the 180th longitude....In 1999, Kiribati changed the date line from dividing that country into two days zones to one zone ostensibly for business purposes, but with the added ability to attract hipsters who wanted to vacation there where they could be among the first to see the year 2000 under the mistaken impression that they would have such a personal brag to friends (not really the first year of the new millenium...calendar years started at 1 CE, not 0...therefore the new century began at 2001)....Guam, a US territory is west date line and closer to Japan and Korea than to the United States, and can be considered the farthest east part of the US....American Samoa is east of the date line....Name those Hawaiian islands that are west of the date line....This is all nerdy, but it's about as stimulating a conversation as speculation over whether Colorado State, Tulane, SMU, Rice, Tulsa, University of North Texas, Arkansas State, and Memphis will be joining the Big 12 to create a 20-team mini-mega-conference....
Living part-time in Hawaii, I was just taking a jab at you man hahaha ... I care not to name the one acre islands that are West of it. Just was trying to join the fun.
 

Endless Purple

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There is a 0.00% chance Oregon is not in the Big 10 or SEC come 2024
Disagree.

SEC not likely.
If the states pass rules preventing the schools from splitting from the "State" schools, then the Big 10 may pass. Not likely but possible. Also was reading somewhere that Oregon may be having AAU issues, but that may be rumor.

I give 85% change in the B1G.
 

Endless Purple

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Put this on another thread, but the discussion here may fit better.

OK. Went through a bunch of listings for financial values of teams and rankings and historical values to see who might be targeted. I broke it into 3 categories: the top 25 must haves, 15 really high on list, and 13 fringe teams. I did NOT write those list, just looked at who was on them. Plus these are football priority, not basketball, but that really only affected the historical listings not financial values.

In the top 25 category there were 5 teams not already in the B1G or SEC: No surprises here.
Oregon and Washington plus Notre Dame, Florida St and Clemson

In the next group of high in the top 40: 11 were not in the B1g and SEC
Virginia Tech, Miami, N Carolina, Georgia Tech, NC State from ACC. Arizona St, Stanford, and Utah from PAC. Oklahoma St, Texas Tech and TCU from Big 12

The fringe group had 11 from non-B1G/SEC
Louisville and Pitt, Cal, Arizona and Colorado, plus WVU, Kansas St, Baylor, Iowa St, BYU, Kansas
 

Eight

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I got to think that the ACC is the next to get smashed. If they lose 3-5 brands in this doesn't that put the B12 in a power position? A savvy commish could have his pick of brands on either coast.

clemson and unc have to be targets

florida state and miami are interesting as i can't imagine the sec would consider adding more than one of those, but if you are the big 10 and want to reach into sec territory go get clemson and either fsu or miami
 

Endless Purple

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clemson and unc have to be targets

florida state and miami are interesting as i can't imagine the sec would consider adding more than one of those, but if you are the big 10 and want to reach into sec territory go get clemson and either fsu or miami
North Carolina is the only AAU school in your list. The rest would be targets of SEC maybe.
 
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