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    EECU the card that wins TCU championships

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University of North Texas to Amon Carter in 2027

Frogenstein

Frogenstein

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You paid by forgoing all Tier 1 rights for 9 years.

Let me help you understand this:
I am selling a car. You come to look at said car and notice I need a new roof. You offer to personally repair my roof in exchange for the car with me supplying all the materials. No money exchanges hands. Did I give you the car for free? Or did you pay for the car in an alternate way, i.e. with your labor?
 
Spike

Spike

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tetonfrog said:
I doubt it. They could not sell out their stadium last year when they had a great team. Now, all of those coaches and players are gone and they are a shadow of that successful team. I bet they won't bring 1,000 fans.

They did not do that the last time they played us at ACS. That was when we had LT and basically gave it to him all day, played good defense and won one of the most boring game I have ever seen. There wasn't 20,000 fans in the stands then. Maybe there will be more next year, but not much more.

Sorry to be Debbie Downer today, but the future doesn't look bright, especially when it is obvious that we have no money and no power going forward.
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Last time they were here was 2002 and it was competitive. They brought a decent contingent.
 
ECM

ECM

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Frogenstein said:
You paid by forgoing all Tier 1 rights for 9 years.

Let me help you understand this:
I am selling a car. You come to look at said car and notice I need a new roof. You offer to personally repair my roof in exchange for the car with me supplying all the materials. No money exchanges hands. Did I give you the car for free? Or did you pay for the car in an alternate way, i.e. with your labor?
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Let me help you understand money. Our media distribution from the American was around $7M. In the ACC, even after forgoing our T1 rights, it's about double that, plus ancillary conference revenue is higher.

In addition, we sell a lot a more tickets at a higher price. Donations and merchandise sales are also way up.

We paid $0.00 to join the ACC and we make a lot more money from being in the ACC than we did in the American. I'm sorry if this upsets you, but you're going to have to deal with it.
 
Frogenstein

Frogenstein

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Did I ever say SMU makes less money in the ACC than they did in the AAC? No.
What I am referring to is what SMU did to get the invite from the ACC, essentially giving the ACC your product for next to free for 9 years.

“Let me help you understand money” The way SMU entered the conference every ACC school, minus Stanford and Cal (who incidentally both have a better deal than SMU) has an extra $30 million a year for 9 years. Can SMU make up the shortfall with ticket sales, donations, etc. . . Of course, but so can the other schools and they have the extra $30 million to boot.
As I said above, it was a good move for SMU but that doesn’t change what SMU had to do to get the invite. Which no other school has had to do to get an invitation to the Power 4.
 
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Wexahu

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Frogenstein said:
Did I ever say SMU makes less money in the ACC than they did in the AAC? No.
What I am referring to is what SMU did to get the invite from the ACC, essentially giving the ACC your product for next to free for 9 years.

“Let me help you understand money” The way SMU entered the conference every ACC school, minus Stanford and Cal (who incidentally both have a better deal than SMU) has an extra $30 million a year for 9 years. Can SMU make up the shortfall with ticket sales, donations, etc. . . Of course, but so can the other schools and they have the extra $30 million to boot.
As I said above, it was a good move for SMU but that doesn’t change what SMU had to do to get the invite. Which no other school has had to do to get an invitation to the Power 4.
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None of this matters now.

TCU is in the Big 12. SMU is in the ACC. Move forward, try and win as much as we can.
 
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FroggleRock

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Wexahu said:
None of this matters now.

TCU is in the Big 12. SMU is in the ACC. Move forward, try and win as much as we can.
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This. Who cares about the little brothers across the metroplex? They’re in a conference where their closest neighbor is 700+ miles away, and the flagship schools are going to leave the second they get the chance. And despite all their spending, we’ve still outclassed them in every sport.
 
Horned Frog Country

Horned Frog Country

Overachieving Frog Hero
ECM said:
They're the flagship university of the most populous state in the country. This shouldn't be difficult.
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LOl! There are several schools that are the flagship school from real small states that add significantly way more value than Cal.

The reality is that California does not have a great college football culture program except USC.

In some ways, I think Fresno State might add more value to a P4 conference than Cal or Stanford. Those two schools don't really care about football at all. Fresno State might be in a small market but they at least care about football.
 
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Mean Purple

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ECM said:
You guys were the ones who "paused" the series, so we decided we'll just play Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and LSU instead!

Realistically though I'm not sure it makes sense for any P4 school to play two P4 OOC games with a 9-game conference schedule. Stanford already had Vanderbilt on the docket for 2027. A lot of ACC and SEC schools had scheduled multiple P4 OOC games before the move to a 9-game conference schedule was announced and are now cancelling some of those games.
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yup ... on the not making sense to schedule another P4 OOC. We are gonna see a lot more of this across P4 conferences.
 
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FroggleRock

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Swiss Cheese GIF by zuggamasta


…here’s some cheese for some of y’all’s whine.
 

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