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Discussion in 'Scott & Wes Frog Fan Forum' started by zfrawg, Jul 31, 2019.

  1. Little strong, IMO.

    There are clearly issues, and they don’t get fixed with people shutting the scheiss up, or keeping their heads in the sand.

    I have to assume everyone here appreciates the donors who’ve made this possible. Make no mistake, without those donors, this stadium is not what it is today.

    But at what point do the benefits of donations become too self serving? I don’t think anyone would have a problem with those west side lower bowl seats having a little extra room side to side, or plush cushions, or wait service, or whatever, but as Jake stated, the amount of room in those rows behind the players bench is just stupid.

    I got to sit in them for he OU game a few years ago and there were literally 7 seats to my left that were empty. Almost the entire row. And when 4-5 people on my right got up and left halfway through the game, we felt like we were on an island. It was bizarre. In arguably the most premium seats in the stadium, against the the winningest(word?) program this league has ever seen. And it was a good game at that point.
     
  2. Drink holder solution for the lower bowl west side 1%ers.
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  3. I can't wait till I can get those lower west side seats so I can sell them on stubhub. I look forward to seeing the seas of burnt orange, crimson, blue and green.
     
  4. Y'all put your drinks down?
     
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  5. Posts like these happen year round. I've seen no correlation between these types of posts and their frequency with anything good in TCU Athletics.
     
  6. So some broke-ass dudes are going to change things? I don't have the $10-$14k per year, or whatever it takes, to buy my 4 seats in the west lower bowl. At that price point, I really don't care. I'm glad we have some alumni (or local businesses) that are willing to buy that sheiss up. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see those seats filled up with some purple, but it is what it is. Like I said, those seats are paid for. That means that the program is getting its money. I want the program to get its money so that they can continue to put a competitive product on the field that I pay my piddly little sheiss money to attend and enjoy. I just want to win. If we win with burnt orange sitting in those seats, even better. Send them home feeling bad about themselves. I'm good with that.
     
  7. Man I don't want to tilly, boys. Or donnybrook, boys. But this isn't an accurate picture at all. NOBODY (except maybe club box renters) is paying that per year. Someone backstop me here, but those LWS season tix, all-in are maybe what, $400-500 per unit?
    The big number people payed (for those who wanted to game the system) was a ONE-time honking donation to buy priority points, so they could jump the line in front of us poor suckers who thought years or decades of loyalty would have some worth.
    That big number that got them to the front of the line, would have been the same with or without flogging the system to buy extras to resell for profit. Whatever value was had out of those big one-time donations is long since gone. I've said this in here before, but CDC could easily have built into the contract language requiring "extras" to be offered to TCU fans first, at face price, before reselling for profit. Could've done that from day one.
    It's like going to the buffet and being fifth in line, and having nothing left but that [ Cumbie’s red zone playcalling ]ty jello with the fruit in it by the time you get your plate because the greedy fat [ "illegitimate Baylor boys" ] in front of you took 7 dinners each before you got your turn and then fed the extras to their dogs.
     
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  9. Bad logic. Can't consistently put a good product on the field when you struggle to recruit because kids visit a game and see the atrocity we have behind our home bench.
     
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  10. I fully admit this is loser logic - but the sooner you come to grips that TCU is never going to have a stadium of 40K+ purple fans for every game, the better. The percentages just don't work out for a school that has an enrollment of 10K. There's a certain (large) percentage of 5 star players who have no interest in a 50K stadium, a little less so with 4 stars but still most of them aren't interested in a small fan base. Especially when the head coach is not a player's coach.
     
  11. As I see it, this is a good news/bad news scenario in that we're a small (albeit rich) school trying to play on a much bigger stage and just don't have the numbers to fill all the seats except in rare circumstances.. I know lots of non TCU people who buy club and lower bowl season tickets just to come a time or two a year to get buzzed at the bar and to see and be seen and they nor their spouses care not one iota about the game or even the sport of football.. Our alternative was to stay in the old stadium and not take these non-fans' money and stay in the MWC.. Sad, but you do have to provide seating for these non fans in order to get their large sums of money even if they're not going to sit in them.. Every game there's bunches of apathetic people in the club drinking and socializing while some really exciting football is being played within 50 feet of them and they could care less..

    Personally, I'm glad we take their money (and alot of it) in exchange for providing these apathetic folks a social scene.. God help the frogdom if we aren't a hot ticket and these non-fans take their money elsewhere..
     
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  12. Tiger?
     
  13. Oh, hi Musers!
     
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  14. Yah I don’t think “broke ass dudes” is the way to look at it. There are plenty of people in AGCS that can pay the necessary funds to make their way into the west side lower bowl if they wanted to. Some people just don’t see the value in it. It’s all perspective I suppose.

    Another way to look at it is, reduce the donation amount by using the space more efficiently. Add more seats. The space is gaudy. You’ll get more fans in the area who won’t have to pay as much per seat(donation plus ticket), those who leave will probably leave anyways and then you’ll hopefully have more people remaining in the section.

    School gets their money, GP gets a fuller section behind the bench, more fans get better access. Seems like a win/win/win.
     
  15. You forgot the part about CGP not wanting Maniac right behind him all game.
     
  16. The Westside lower bowl sucks for sure, but it still beats sitting on that atrocious, deplorable, Baltimorean east side.
     
  17. Largely correct. And even then with the large donations, they’re so desperate to get lump sum donations now, they’re spreading the total donation amounts out over 5 years to minimize outlay and entice new donors.
     
  18. Might want to rethink your idea and make a separate thread for that now
     
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  19. Don’t go then.
     
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  20. Probably a good idea!
     

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