Those were the days, my friends. Those were the days...

[Wexahu]

I know you are really not so stupid you don't get the idea that we are going the wrong way with Dykes - I guess its a schtick with you at this point....

Did GP lose it at the end - yes he did - and we fired him for it. we fired him for losing his team after 4 years of mediocrity. But while we had bad years with GP - we always had the hope of amazing years to make up for it until the end and when that hope was gone - so was he.

Guess where we are with Dykes - we have ZERO hope for greatness and have settle for mediocrity in the weakest conference TCU has played in since the WAC - so it's time so say goodbye to Dykes just like we did GP.

And what is going on with the team right now is some of the worse program control ever - it's a joke and cause alone for Dykes and probably Buddie to find another job somewhere else.

You really think this conference is weaker than the MWC?

Lol, you’re an idiot.

You know, Dykes is probably on his way out, if he has a bad year it might be time for a change. But [ Arschloch]s like you never even wanted him to be successful here, and the reason is obvious.

 

[Wexahu]

so you don't think Dabo or GP deserved more years but you think a flash in pan Dykes does? what a joke

I’d be perfectly fine if we have a bad year and we let Dykes go. That’s the way it works. I don’t know why you and your cronies had a big problem with the way GP was let go, it was time.

And I know guys like you never gave SD a chance because it was personal with you. He was hired by the guy who fired GP. You don’t call another grown man with the track record of SD a “loser” unless you’ve got personal issues with the guy. So quit denying that, you ass.

 

[Double D]

Key phrase: Dykes hasn’t been able to recruit

We always had a garbage OOC outside of a couple games (OSU and LSU), and Dykes hasn’t been able to recruit to a conference with UT and OU in it. Makes a difference. The new league hasn’t been any easier to win in than the old one for all the old B12 holdovers (except Tech, for obviou$ rea$on$)

 

[Wexahu]

Key phrase: Dykes hasn’t been able to recruit

It’s been a struggle. It’s not easy without having OU and UT on the schedule and having a relatively modest budget to buy players. I suppose it could be better though.

Another poster lamented that we are no longer in the national conversation. Well, name me one program that is that isn’t big player in pay for play.

 

[LSU Game Attendee]

I know you are really not so stupid you don't get the idea that we are going the wrong way with Dykes - I guess its a schtick with you at this point....

Did GP lose it at the end - yes he did - and we fired him for it. we fired him for losing his team after 4 years of mediocrity. But while we had bad years with GP - we always had the hope of amazing years to make up for it until the end and when that hope was gone - so was he.

Guess where we are with Dykes - we have ZERO hope for greatness and have settle for mediocrity in the weakest conference TCU has played in since the WAC - so it's time so say goodbye to Dykes just like we did GP.

The truth is why you always go back to Dykes "total record and average wins" including his one fluke season - that has 100% proven to be a fluke. Because his actual current performance points 100% to the fact that we are doing being anything being middle of the pack in a bottom of the P5 conference at best.

And what is going on with the team right now is some of the worse program control ever - it's a joke and cause alone for Dykes and probably Buddie to find another job somewhere else.

Long term, GP is best suited to be a DC. He was an incredible HC, but may be one of the best DCs ever. Elements like “loyalty to a fault” to struggling subordinates are greatly reduced, and he’s free to fully nerd out on scheme and technique. USC appears to be in a great spot.

 

[BleedNPurple]

I hope Dykes tells the players not to ever read Killer Frogs. It’s the most give up negative bunch of alumni and T Shirt fans living in the past who don’t know what’s really going on with our program.

I hope this team rips off 11 straight wins so I can bring this string back from the deep and save a couple of you from jumping off a building.

 

[BrewingFrog]

I hope Dykes tells the players not to ever read Killer Frogs. It’s the most give up negative bunch of alumni and T Shirt fans living in the past who don’t know what’s really going on with our program.

I hope this team rips off 11 straight wins so I can bring this string back from the deep and save a couple of you from jumping off a building.

Did you watch that mess last week?

 

[An-Cap Frog]

 

[Wexahu]

I hope Dykes tells the players not to ever read Killer Frogs. It’s the most give up negative bunch of alumni and T Shirt fans living in the past who don’t know what’s really going on with our program.

I hope this team rips off 11 straight wins so I can bring this string back from the deep and save a couple of you from jumping off a building.

People cant seem to figure out why we aren’t in the “national conversation” anymore, or they blame it on SD. I’ve asked the question twice now and it’s been crickets so far.

What current team is in the “national conversation” that isn’t a relatively major player in pay-for-play? I’d ask them to name three programs, but heck, just give me one for starters.

 

[An-Cap Frog]

Did you watch that mess last week?

The QB that SD recruited left for the school that just won a NC. Our fans [ Finebaum ] on him, didn't raise enough money to keep him, and let his OC go to an SEC school. And you complaining about the mess that was left?

 

[gohornedfrogs]

Long term, GP is best suited to be a DC. He was an incredible HC, but may be one of the best DCs ever. Elements like “loyalty to a fault” to struggling subordinates are greatly reduced, and he’s free to fully nerd out on scheme and technique. USC appears to be in a great spot.

I don't buy into this post-departure argument that he was a glorified DC. Quite frankly, that's insulting to the players he coached to what were at the time unimagined heights. He also took our program to unimagined heights by instilling an us-against-the-world, chip-on-our-shoulders attitude that permeated the entire program. Only an astute head coach could have built that kind of culture.

Yes, his last few years were not pretty. But when you look at how GP reached peaks, it was always after a period of re-evaluating and evolving. So to say he isn't capable of changing and evolving is nonsense, and he did that as a HEAD COACH, not as a DC.

Looking back, 2001-2002 was him learning to be a HC and building a culture. 2003 was a breakout year with him finally getting his footing and his players buying into a complicated defensive scheme with excessive, almost obsessive, game planning.

2004 was a setback, especially the 70-35 game, which led to some soul searching and a re-built 4-2-5, and 2005-2006 showed great improvement, with the 12-3 Tech game in 2006 being a watershed moment. 2007 was a minor setback, but then we got 2008-2010 -- three consecutive top 10 finishes and a Rose Bowl victory.

2011 kept the train going and we were on a good path. Then the drug bust in 2012, and despite that, we were in a lot of one-possession games our first year in the B12. 2013 was a disaster. So what happened? GP evolved again, brought in an entirely un-GP like offensive philosophy with Meachum and Cumbie, and we got 2014 and 2015, probably the two best teams, top to bottom, we've ever fielded. Injuries to Boykin and Doctson derailed 2015, but that was an incredible squad. He pieced together another top 10 in 2017 as well.

At the end, GP got stubborn, made some bad QB decisions, but most importantly, made some bad coaching personnel decisions. I'd be willing to bet he has, once again, self-evolved and could do special things with a team as a head coach.

In my opinion, I think in the era of having General Managers, he may thrive. Leave the football coaching to GP, and let the GM build the roster and handle all the NIL nonsense. As long as he doesn't default to his old cronies as assistants, I think he would be a great head coach again.

 

[Sangria Wine]

I hope Dykes tells the players not to ever read Killer Frogs. It’s the most give up negative bunch of alumni and T Shirt fans living in the past who don’t know what’s really going on with our program.

I hope this team rips off 11 straight wins so I can bring this string back from the deep and save a couple of you from jumping off a building.

I hope you get that chance. I’ll be first in line to eat crow about SD if it does.

 

[Wexahu]

I don't buy into this post-departure argument that he was a glorified DC. Quite frankly, that's insulting to the players he coached to what were at the time unimagined heights. He also took our program to unimagined heights by instilling an us-against-the-world, chip-on-our-shoulders attitude that permeated the entire program. Only an astute head coach could have built that kind of culture.

Yes, his last few years were not pretty. But when you look at how GP reached peaks, it was always after a period of re-evaluating and evolving. So to say he isn't capable of changing and evolving is nonsense, and he did that as a HEAD COACH, not as a DC.

Looking back, 2001-2002 was him learning to be a HC and building a culture. 2003 was a breakout year with him finally getting his footing and his players buying into a complicated defensive scheme with excessive, almost obsessive, game planning.

2004 was a setback, especially the 70-35 game, which led to some soul searching and a re-built 4-2-5, and 2005-2006 showed great improvement, with the 12-3 Tech game in 2006 being a watershed moment. 2007 was a minor setback, but then we got 2008-2010 -- three consecutive top 10 finishes and a Rose Bowl victory.

2011 kept the train going and we were on a good path. Then the drug bust in 2012, and despite that, we were in a lot of one-possession games our first year in the B12. 2013 was a disaster. So what happened? GP evolved again, brought in an entirely un-GP like offensive philosophy with Meachum and Cumbie, and we got 2014 and 2015, probably the two best teams, top to bottom, we've ever fielded. Injuries to Boykin and Doctson derailed 2015, but that was an incredible squad. He pieced together another top 10 in 2017 as well.

At the end, GP got stubborn, made some bad QB decisions, but most importantly, made some bad coaching personnel decisions. I'd be willing to bet he has, once again, self-evolved and could do special things with a team as a head coach.

In my opinion, I think in the era of having General Managers, he may thrive. Leave the football coaching to GP, and let the GM build the roster and handle all the NIL nonsense. As long as he doesn't default to his old cronies as assistants, I think he would be a great head coach again.

The teams you reference could’ve never been developed in this era. You think Andy Dalton is the QB here in the Rose Bowl under these current rules? You think Jerry Hughes sticks around? LOL.

 

[One Frog Nation]

I don't think GP "lost it"; I think his downfall was two consecutive top QB recruits faltering.

Shawn Robinson looked like he had the potential to be incredible; as a true Soph he played reasonably well against tOSU. Knowing how guys tend to develop as they age, if he had followed a good trajectory he could have been a program changer.

We all know what happened but when SR left we had a huge void because Justin Rogers, another top recruit, was injured in HS and we stuck with him.

Two consecutive QB recruits failing to deliver meant that Duggan has to be rushed into service and wasn't ready. If either SR or JR had panned out the 2018 and 19 seasons would have been much different.

I think there might be a little more to it. I believe that it is the same in sports and business. Whenever, the person in charge has been there for long time, change becomes extremely hard. Most the of the past successes were because of change but he was the one changing someone else's past mistakes. It is much harder to honestly look at your body of work when things are going wrong and want to revert back to your basics, to the good old days, so to speak. It happens in business as well. People get reinvigorated when they change jobs/locations. Learning, evolving and changing with the times, trends, etc is the hardest thing to maintain.

 

[gohornedfrogs]

The teams you reference could’ve never been developed in this era. You think Andy Dalton is the QB here in the Rose Bowl under these current rules? You think Jerry Hughes sticks around? LOL.

First off, show me where I said he would be a good coach at TCU again. It's very rare to catch lightning in a bottle twice. I think he could go to the SEC or B10 with a program that does have money and do very well. He's only got about 6 or 7 years of tread left on those tires, though. He's a Hall of Fame coach for a reason, he did amazing things here that nobody else could have done, and I'm tired of people [ Finebaum ]ting all over him and his legacy.

But to your point, yeah, let's just throw in the towel, disband the program, and focus on women's volleyball and rifle.

I'm hopeful that this NIL / transfer portal / paying players thing will get sorted out. We can hate on Cody Campbell and Nick Saban all we want, but at least they are trying to put some guardrails on this insanity. Unfortunately, they enlisted the help of politicians to solve the problem. It's 50/50 that they might actually make it worse.

 

[SW toad]

Key phrase: Dykes hasn’t been able to recruit

Coach Lance Taylor @ Western Michigan is having success. WMU does not have the NIL budget, but he has been successful at setting a culture and motivating players.

If Jon Sumrall-Fla or even Greg Schiano- Rutgers walk into a CFB recruit's living room, then CSD walks in a week later. Who do you think a family is going to like???

TCU had been ranked nationally 19-29 in CFB recruiting. Last cycle we were #49. Probably the worst in the past 8-10 years. Rutgers, Wake Forest and Vanderbilt are a few of the teams ranked higher than TCU during last cycle.

 

[NewFrogFan]

Middle row of seats...a periodic 5-4 conference record, more often 4-5....With at least 2 if not 3 Mid-America, American, Sun Belt conference opponents to heist the season to 6-6 and a thanks for participation ribbon at a minor bowl....

That would be the end for me.

 

[Potlicker]

I hope you get that chance. I’ll be first in line to eat crow about SD if it does.

Go visit HornedFrogBlitz........it's worse, yes it is.....fire everyone and hire back Malcolm and Avalos first.

 

[Potlicker]

Long term, GP is best suited to be a DC. He was an incredible HC, but may be one of the best DCs ever. Elements like “loyalty to a fault” to struggling subordinates are greatly reduced, and he’s free to fully nerd out on scheme and technique. USC appears to be in a great spot.

I agree, the layoff helped and teamed with Riley, they may make a playoff run. When GP only has defense to work, maybe the best in college ball, No, he is.

 

[NewFrogFan]

I hope Dykes tells the players not to ever read Killer Frogs. It’s the most give up negative bunch of alumni and T Shirt fans living in the past who don’t know what’s really going on with our program.

I hope this team rips off 11 straight wins so I can bring this string back from the deep and save a couple of you from jumping off a building.

Except the Qb….he needs to read this, and maybe the OC.