FrogAbroad
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I think you've hit upon the key: Whatever the Pub was some 30 years ago it apparently isn't today. Times change. Markets change. Progress devolves into petrifaction. Otherwise I'd still be driving my '55 Super 88.
The PUB closing May 18th
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Hemingway
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The older you get the more you look back at amazement of the places you thought were really cool in your 20s. The bar is set really low. Fat Harry’s … Pour House… the Moon, the Aardvark, black dog tavern, pig and whistle, Aqua Room, the list goes on and on.
The Bad Guy
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Back to my point earlier, TCU has no college social life like other college campuses. That’s fine for some. When I was 18 I wanted to live in a college world. I can live the downtown type life for the rest of my life after.
ShadowFrog
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What?
No Gremlin?!
Trelvis
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Different strokes for different folks. I personally don't understand why kids go to college in places like Manhattan, Kansas or Oxford, Mississippi, or Stillwater, Oklahoma or some of the others.
Mean Purple
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not sure we would be protesting that actively, unless enticed by being allowed to drink a beer while doing it.
I think the younger generations is so cookie cutter that the idea of a traditional spot is lost on them, unfortunately. Drive by new shopping centers and locations and check the amount of quick hit concept eateries. Today it's "Nashville hot chicken" , tomorrow it's "Detroit (whatever the hell they eat)", next week it's "Wisconsin Curds". All next to badly made and unculturally accurate Thai food places.
they so cultured.
Chongo94
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Ok my mistake, there is one bar still there. It’s newish….i honestly thought it was a coffee bar running club place before i went last night.
I’s called Ampersand and it was awful. Sorority girls will love and do love it. I hated every second of it. Possibly the loudest bar I’ve ever been in and that’s saying something.
The Pub was absolutely packed last night! Possibly a combination of graduation week and the news that it is closing. There were people having to wait outside to get in at one point.
I’s called Ampersand and it was awful. Sorority girls will love and do love it. I hated every second of it. Possibly the loudest bar I’ve ever been in and that’s saying something.
The Pub was absolutely packed last night! Possibly a combination of graduation week and the news that it is closing. There were people having to wait outside to get in at one point.
Dr. Coach Haus
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What time did you pass by the pub?
froginmn
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FroggleRock
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Ampersand sucks. It’s bougie coffee bar that turns into a nightclub.
Brog
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Are you a student right now? My grandson thinks there's almost too much social life at tCU right now. Has to work to remember he's a student.
FroggleRock
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Yeah between West 7th, Stockyards, Downtown, Southside, Magnolia, the few TCU bars (Poop Deck, Pub, Jon’s, Republic), and the weekly house parties, there is a BIG social life at TCU when you have a playground that big.
The TCU Football Jerk
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The best thing about the pub for those that lived on campus was that no transportation was required. Same for the Cellar. You could stumble home with your eyes closed and still find your dorm.
Dr. Coach Haus
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I would drop off the Gf at the dorm and then head to the pub and be there until close.
Chongo94
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It was around 9:30 or so. Maybe a bit earlier.
jack the frog
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Probably some minor differences between back when and today. In 82, TCU was a much smaller school, but the drinking age was 18. Everyone was at the bar. I saw the same people suffering in class that were in the Hi-Hat, OUI, HOP or The Pub the night before. A smaller family that you may have seen more frequently, as it were.
The Pub leaseholders have a classic case of "tortious interference" I am not a Lawyer but executed/procured retail industrial leases for 5-6 years. I encountered 2 cases out of about 35 leases signed where Tortious interference was awarded to the tenant.
Let's be real -REAL. They were raised on phones, laptops and tablets. They do not in this universe understand face to face engagement. The CCP and other asian governments have designed electronic devices to addict people, specifically so Americans don't have conversation. I am proud to say I'm not addicted. My phone stays in my glove box while driving. While at office or home my phone stays at least 5 ft away. My phone is not connected to internet.
Yeah, sure you may say i'm paranoid. Let's remember what one of the leading tech pioneers said about 20 years back, The Paranoid shall survive. Andy Grove while at Intel promoted this.
bc puckett
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Well I've been in commercial real estate for over 30 years and have done over 12,000 leases for new locations plus lease renewals, renegs, LL/Tenant disputes etc... They only way they would have any type of case is if the Tenant had an option to renew (which has not been mentioned anywhere). If there was no option the LL had every right to market his property and lease to a new Tenant.
If the lease was expiring with no renewal options Tenant is SOL
Sure the LL had a right to lease to a new tenant but not if the effort to lease by the LL while the existing tenant had a 30 + year track record of paying on time. The pub tenants et al had a 3 decade + track record of paying on time and given a certain judge, The Current tenants will be given full examination as to why they were not granted the same opportunity to pay what Buffalo Bros was willing to pay. Current tenants were shut out.
Judges who ae favorable to tenants in todays environment may very well give the underdog the chance .There is the possibility that a judge muddles the waters on the right of renewal options.
I don't comprehend how anyone could do beyond 100 retail lease transactions. To coordinate a Lease transaction is the epitome of boring, bland, and dull.
