• The KillerFrogs

The Harris/Biden Administration: Coming Together to Build Back Better

TCURiggs

Active Member
I have no doubt you are too brainwashed or ignorant to understand they are all true.

It really is fascinating to me how an educated guy like yourself, who has believed and pumped so many false narratives over the past several years, doesn't ever self-reflect and think "you know, after seeing how a lot of things have played out that I was wrong about, maybe I was a little brainwashed and ignorant at times. Maybe I should pump the breaks on some of this."

But nope, just full-throttle down that same road with zero awareness. Just always throwing insults and claiming you're the one who has it all figured out and everyone else is dumb. I should know better by now that educated doesn't mean rational, but I often mistakenly assume that those things should be synonymous. You're in the same bot as hippityhop and LVH and just have no clue that's the case. It's crazy.
 

Tre J

Full Member
That take is forced. The guy who was president for 8 years and everyone knows has advocated both for stricter gun laws and police reform can walk (grieve this tragedy) and chew gum (honor the movement that emerged in support of police reform in the wake of George Floyd’s murder) at the same time. Pretending he tried to downplay the seriousness and tragedy of the former in favor of the latter is very clearly twisting the reality.
I just put the value of kids being killed in a senseless act a little higher than that of a life long thug being killed by police. Also, the fact that Floyd is so highly regarded/celebrated is disgusting.

And go look at all of those calling for police reform and guns out of schools (Kerr and others) are now the loudest asking how can we protect the kids.
 
Last edited:

What Up Toad

Active Member

I'll say that I'm with this guy on a lot of his points, but him trying to discredit the "more guns = more deaths" line made me laugh.

If I have 1000 guns with 10 deaths (.01 deaths per gun), and then double the number of guns but only see deaths rise to 19, you still have more deaths even if the amount attributed to each gun goes down.

Also .1 deaths per gun? Where'd he come up with that number? We have more guns than people in this country. Does he really believe over 1/10th of the country is dying to a gun?
 

What Up Toad

Active Member
Sounds like Parkland all over again...


This headline is pretty misleading. From everything I read, he was contained to one classroom pretty quickly after he went in.

I'm sure there were panicked parents who saw police outside and thought no one was in there, but it sounded like the police responded pretty quickly.
 

TCURiggs

Active Member
This headline is pretty misleading. From everything I read, he was contained to one classroom pretty quickly after he went in.

I'm sure there were panicked parents who saw police outside and thought no one was in there, but it sounded like the police responded pretty quickly.

Yeah, I've seen the same reports about him being contained in the classroom after engaging with the on-campus security guard, or someone else. And I certainly don't put much stock in any mainstream media headline, but if it turns out that the cops stood around for a long time with an active shooter inside of a school (that's an eternity in a situation like that), I'm going to have a hard time understanding that part of it. Surely the AP wouldn't run with a story like that, with actual cited quotes from bystanders, but you never know these days...
 

What Up Toad

Active Member

I keep seeing takes like this from the right, but I don't know what their proposed solution is.

Most families can't afford to have a mom stay at home and raise the kids, which is one of the best ways to head off bad/violent behaviors and things like ADHD.

The stress from two parents working and worrying about money is one of the leading causes of divorce too.

I'm also seeing more and more Republicans saying that the $40billion we sent to Ukraine could've been better spent here, but I also don't know of any programs Republicans have put forth to help the poor.
 

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain

I keep seeing takes like this from the right, but I don't know what their proposed solution is.

Most families can't afford to have a mom stay at home and raise the kids, which is one of the best ways to head off bad/violent behaviors and things like ADHD.

The stress from two parents working and worrying about money is one of the leading causes of divorce too.

I'm also seeing more and more Republicans saying that the $40billion we sent to Ukraine could've been better spent here, but I also don't know of any programs Republicans have put forth to help the poor.
He's not talking about a 50's style Leave it to Beaver sitcom, he's referring to a two-parent household. Our society has done a bang up job in the last several decades waging a battle against the concept of the nuclear family.
 

TCURiggs

Active Member

I keep seeing takes like this from the right, but I don't know what their proposed solution is.

Most families can't afford to have a mom stay at home and raise the kids, which is one of the best ways to head off bad/violent behaviors and things like ADHD.

The stress from two parents working and worrying about money is one of the leading causes of divorce too.

I'm also seeing more and more Republicans saying that the $40billion we sent to Ukraine could've been better spent here, but I also don't know of any programs Republicans have put forth to help the poor.

I don't know what the solution is either, but I think that's definitely a valid take by Crowder. I do think the overall, mainstream talking points we hear certainly contribute to what he's talking about. We constantly hear talk of "women don't need men" "women can be strong, independent and successful on their own" "men can be women/women can be men," etc... Our country's values have changed so much with all of this "woke" bullship. Couple that with the welfare state contributing to undermining marriage/encouraging and supporting single-parenthood, and all of that makes sense to me on why we've seen the increase in single-parenthood along with the increase in more darned up individuals contributing to this mess.

(here's an article that articulates some of that more thoroughly than I did... https://www.heritage.org/welfare/report/how-welfare-undermines-marriage-and-what-do-about-it)

As for the money, I think it's pretty simple. Instead of sending $50+ billion to Ukraine for a proxy war, let's throw that cash at upgrading the security of our public schools. A quick Google search tells me we have almost 99k public schools, and at $54 billion that would be about $545k per school. Feel like I would feel much better about my tax dollars if over half a million would go to every public school for upgraded security measures, rather than to Ukraine. I don't know what kind of "program" that would put in place, but it could do some substantial things and make me a hell of a lot happier by protecting our kids.
 

CountryFrog

Active Member

I keep seeing takes like this from the right, but I don't know what their proposed solution is.
I agree with both you and him unfortunately. I think the lack of family stability and moral values is a huge contributor to so many young people becoming so troubled. Like you, though, I don't know what the solution is at this point and haven't seen any actual solutions proposed. We're so far down this path societaly where divorce (or just not even getting married at all) is accepted as commonplace and having strong moral values is almost looked down on by many people that I don't know how you get things turned around.

Lots of people think more laws are the answer to everything so I guess maybe we can just pass some family values legislation and see what that does.
 
Last edited:

Bob Sugar

Active Member
That take is forced. The guy who was president for 8 years and everyone knows has advocated both for stricter gun laws and police reform can walk (grieve this tragedy) and chew gum (honor the movement that emerged in support of police reform in the wake of George Floyd’s murder) at the same time. Pretending he tried to downplay the seriousness and tragedy of the former in favor of the latter is very clearly twisting the reality.
More than a dozen people were murdered in the wake of George Floyd.
 
Top