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The Harris/Biden Administration: Coming Together to Build Back Better

Frog-in-law1995

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SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.

I don't have to justify my 2nd amendment GOD GIVEN right. Sorry you are such an effeminate soy drinking loser that you let emotions get the best of you to where you cheerlead for further 2nd amendment erosion
Ah yes, the red letter amendment.
 

TCURiggs

Active Member
Anybody see Beto show up at the Uvalde press conference and start screaming at Abbott? Right in the middle of the grieving. The people were yelling at him and calling him a sob, a-hole, , etc. Really Showed his ass.

He had the Mayor saying "get his ass out of here!" What an incredible piece of ship to try and grandstand in front of those people...

 

FrogUltimate

Active Member
Sure it does, and I'd add convicted to the equation. Otherwise, we're back in the red flag law territory where anyone making an accusation can have your rights removed.

Disagree. Guarantee you those police officers on that beat knew that kid and his mom were dangerous and needed help. But I’m done here. We’re not going to do anything about it other than anyone with the means is going to trend more and more to home school and private school
 

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
Disagree. Guarantee you those police officers on that beat knew that kid and his mom were dangerous and needed help. But I’m done here. We’re not going to do anything about it other than anyone with the means is going to trend more and more to home school and private school
I don't disagree that there were those in the community that knew this young man was a danger. But, if they didn't do anything about it legally then passing laws that allow simple allegations to negate rights isn't the answer. The question that needs to be answered is what could have been done legally to address the problem? Were the police not able to make an arrest due to laws governing minors? Was it a problem with a DA that is reluctant to prosecute cases like these? Cultural policing policies? We don't know, and most people aren't interested in finding out, Beto included.
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
Anybody see Beto show up at the Uvalde press conference and start screaming at Abbott? Right in the middle of the grieving. The people were yelling at him and calling him a sob, a-hole, , etc. Really Showed his ass.

Imagine if we had a governor that wasn’t so busy cashing checks from the Gun Lobby that he gave a flying scheiss about school shootings and the minimal promises he made after Sandy Hook (edit: Santa Fe. It’s difficult to keep them straight)

O’Rourke will lose but at least he’s using his platform. It’s about time a Texan with a platform showed some outrage about the problem.

No doubt the people that crashed school board meetings screaming about masking as “child abuse” will rush to criticize Beto for confronting the most powerful politician in the state and defend Abbott because nothing matters and we live in a deteriorating minority-ruled republic.
 

Dogfrog

Active Member
Imagine if we had a governor that wasn’t so busy cashing checks from the Gun Lobby that he gave a flying scheiss about school shootings and the minimal promises he made after Sandy Hook (edit: Santa Fe. It’s difficult to keep them straight)

O’Rourke will lose but at least he’s using his platform. It’s about time a Texan with a platform showed some outrage.
Did you advise Beto on this? It was a pure political stunt with less than zero regard for the grieving people there. A true it’s all about me moment.
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
But how much money did Abott cost the state and the country during his "check all the trucks for drugs" nonsense? at the border I can't stand Beto, but Abbott is not much better. Sad that these two clowns are the best that Texas can do.

I’m not a Beto fan. He would be fine in the House or Senate but he’s not a good fit for executive office. He’s a decent voice for a plurality of Texans whose voices are unheard in a single party state, but his views don’t represent a majority of Texans’. I for one don’t agree with some of his positions on guns.

All that said, Abbott only cares about one thing: his political future. He wants to be president and the way he handles everything he does as governor is through that political lens - ignoring the electric grid, the border nonsense, and how he approaches gun violence.

Anyways, point being I agree the both suck. IMO, one worse than the other. But they do both suck.
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
Did you advise Beto on this? It was a pure political stunt with less than zero regard for the grieving people there. A true it’s all about me moment.

Anyone who’s watched Beto through the years knows he is a compassionate person and is also extremely passionate about this issue. IMO this wasn’t an advisable action as a political strategy but I don’t doubt he is genuinely motivated by anger here after what happened in El Paso and the way the state has responded to these shootings under single party control. IMO, the fact he went there signals he knows he can’t win and is using his candidacy as a platform for the 40%+ of Texans whose voices are never heard in a one-party state.

Even if I’m wrong about his motivation, which I may be, then it’s just as simple and accurate to say the response of the people on stage is no doubt politically motivated as well. Were the words spoken by someone they didn’t instinctually hate because of his political affiliation - ie an anonymous griever - they never would’ve lashed out like that.
 
As someone who is in favor of some middle ground approach, I do get how gun rights advocates are turned off by the political grandstanding or opportunism by the left when a tragedy like this happens. However, I don't think it is just politicians- when something like this happen, a lot of the public gets into a "we have to do something" mindset, which I think is understandable if we are being honest. For me, efforts to get guns out of the wrong hands, even if it results in a few more hoops and hassles for responsible gun owners, is at least worth a try. Maybe it won't stop every tragedy, but this is one place where even a little reduction could be huge for those positively affected.
 

vicarfrog

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As someone who is in favor of some middle ground approach, I do get how gun rights advocates are turned off by the political grandstanding or opportunism by the left when a tragedy like this happens. However, I don't think it is just politicians- when something like this happen, a lot of the public gets into a "we have to do something" mindset, which I think is understandable if we are being honest. For me, efforts to get guns out of the wrong hands, even if it results in a few more hoops and hassles for responsible gun owners, is at least worth a try. Maybe it won't stop every tragedy, but this is one place where even a little reduction could be huge for those positively affected.

I'd say that "we have to do something" mindset is our human tendency towards self-justification. I can't help but think as pastor, but pastorally speaking, we have to move past self-justification and grieve and shut our mouths...for a little while.
 

TCUdirtbag

Active Member
I'd say that "we have to do something" mindset is our human tendency towards self-justification. I can't help but think as pastor, but pastorally speaking, we have to move past self-justification and grieve and shut our mouths...for a little while.

Not my faith, but pastor isn’t your Jesus the one that angrily overturned tables in a temple, sat with sinners, and took action rather than just quietly sit in prayer?

I’d suggest the folks supposedly doing all the praying and telling us in social media posts to “just pray” might need to stop doing all the talking at God and start doing some listening. In my faith, God sends signs. Not sure how they could be any clearer.
 
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