The Harris/Biden Administration: Coming Together to Build Back Better
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AroundWorldFrog
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HFrog1999
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gohornedfrogs
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DC has become a hive mind of bureaucrats. Over a half a million of them, plus all the lobbyists, NGOs, and other political activist groups. They’ve created their own bubble and have lost the ability to connect with the general public. They all think alike and have no idea what the average American goes through on a daily basis.
The next republican president needs to move all these departments to places all over the country so that they can live among the people and gain an understanding of what life is really like.
Dogfrog
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IRS to Vegas. Social Security to Branson. FBI to Waco, etc.
gohornedfrogs
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jack the frog
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Thoughts on punitive taxation as ethical reckoning.
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Taxation as Social Justice
"The goal is not to raise raise revenue so we can support the poor; instead, the US is pursuing the simpler goal of eliminating private concentrations of wealth." ~Michael Munger
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TxFrog1999
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That definition is better suited for cult, not religion.
AroundWorldFrog
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jack the frog
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I think that is what he is getting at....it's literally a cult. And the worst part is the deep state is on board 100%
An-Cap Frog
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Taxation is theft.Thoughts on punitive taxation as ethical reckoning.
Taxation as Social Justice
"The goal is not to raise raise revenue so we can support the poor; instead, the US is pursuing the simpler goal of eliminating private concentrations of wealth." ~Michael Munger
Call it theft if you want, but some taxation is necessary if you want to have a functioning society.
On what page is "taxation is theft" in the Anarchy-Capitalism creed? Or is a whole chapter devoted to that?
An-Cap Frog
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The short answer is: If I don't pay my taxes then a guy a with a gun will show up at my door and demand payment. How is that different than armed robbery of a bank?
The long answer is Lysander Spooner, Rothbard, Hoppe, and others have discussed this at length.
Also, why would taxation be necessary in an anarchist society?
Zubaz
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It's different because the citizens of the town where the bank is located didn't pass a Constitutional amendment that allowed someone to rob a bank, they didn't elect representatives to vote and pass legislation allowing someone to rob a bank. They didn't debate bank robbing as public policy to provide for the common good.
In other words, it's not at all analogous to armed robbery.
This is the fundamental issue with the hyper-individualism of anarchist / super-libertarian ideologues: They refuse to recognize the validity of a Democratic system of government for something as base level as raising revenue.
And when you ask these people how they would solve certain, obvious shortcomings pertaining to an anarchist society, the solution is almost always to create something that is basically government, by another name I guess.
An-Cap Frog
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Is taxation voluntary?
If 10 people vote to take your car is that okay even if you had a vote?
An-Cap Frog
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Anarchism the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.
Zubaz
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No, nor should it be. That doesn't make it invalid.
That would depend.
What the anarchists never seem to get is that we live in a Democratic system of government with guardrails that protects individual rights from a tyranny of the majority. Sometimes you are in the minority of what the citizens of your area want to do. Too bad, so sad, but that's how it works. The idea that taxation overall, a system justified and legally included in all founding documents, further defined via Amending those documents, and passed via valid legislation, all of which were/are voted on either directly by the people of the country or through democratically elected representatives, is somehow invalid does not stand up to any sort of scrutiny.
