TCU vs OSU Game Thread

[Realtorfrog]

Also. Why do our players not put their hands over their hearts during the national anthem? All of the OSU players were doing it. Bad look imo.

I’ve never done it unless I’m wearing a cap? In put my hands at my side......Never heard of this, unlike the pledge. Is it a thing or ones choice?

 

[y2kFrog]

A rim protector who can't score and who will be useless against teams that can shoot a 3. Ok State was shooting under .100 from the 3 last few games.

He's our 3rd leading scorer.

 

[netty2424]

Sadly, no. Lost the opener 8-6. I spent all week drawing up the perfect game plan to neutralize the size advantage the Polar Bears had over us, but if the kids don’t execute what’s a coach supposed to do? I wanted to push the pace. They were bigger but we were faster. Instead, the kids all bunched up in one place in one corner of the court and either double dribbled or traveled. It was a disaster.

I totally understand the difficult job college and pro coaches have now.

You’re in luck.

Rotate your shooting coach to your dribbling coach. Move your dribbling coach to your passing coach. Move your passing coach to your “you got that kid” coach. Move your “you got that kid” coach to your white board go getter for timeouts coach. And hire a FNG as your shooting coach to satisfy the “injecting new blood into the program” fans.

Just bought yourself another 10 years.

 

[Horned Toad]

Also. Why do our players not put their hands over their hearts during the national anthem? All of the OSU players were doing it. Bad look imo.

I noticed that exact same thing. Except for any foreign players, everyone should be expected to honor our flag.

 

[Boomhauer]

Sadly, no. Lost the opener 8-6. I spent all week drawing up the perfect game plan to neutralize the size advantage the Polar Bears had over us, but if the kids don’t execute what’s a coach supposed to do? I wanted to push the pace. They were bigger but we were faster. Instead, the kids all bunched up in one place in one corner of the court and either double dribbled or traveled. It was a disaster.

I totally understand the difficult job college and pro coaches have now.

Have you tried taking advantage of the transfer portal?

 

[satis1103]

I noticed that exact same thing. Except for any foreign players, everyone should be expected to honor our flag.

Yeah but where there hand may or may not be while standing respectfully is about 5,347th on the list of things I notice or care about.

 

[Bonner4Prez]

He's our 3rd leading scorer.

not yesterday lol

 

[StinnettFrog]

Also. Why do our players not put their hands over their hearts during the national anthem? All of the OSU players were doing it. Bad look imo.

I understand where you are coming from, but its each individuals choice on what and how they do it. You can't force people to respect something. As long as they are not blatantly disrespecting I don't see a problem.

 

[flyfishingfrog]

not yesterday lol

If you didn’t grasp Samuel’s value in the win yesterday - I suggest you either actually watch the game instead of just reading the stat line or take interest in another sport besides basketball due to a lack of comprehension

 

[Dogfrog]

Pretty sure there have already been threads on the anthem. As an old, I remember being taught this stuff from first grade. Think most schools still do the pledge daily, which includes hand on heart. But the anthem is not a daily routine and I choose to assume some of these young guys just aren’t aware of any protocol.

 

[Pharm Frog]

Pretty sure there have already been threads on the anthem. As an old, I remember being taught this stuff from first grade. Think most schools still do the pledge daily, which includes hand on heart. But the anthem is not a daily routine and I choose to assume some of these young guys just aren’t aware of any protocol.

I can assure you that the number of public schools that do the pledge daily are not in the majority any more.

 

[Dogfrog]

I can assure you that the number of public schools that do the pledge daily are not in the majority any more.

My wife just retired as a public school elementary teacher and the schools where she taught did the pledge every morning. However, they were in smaller city districts so you may very well be right.

Edit: wife just told me reciting the pledge each day in public schools is Texas state law:
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/education-code/educ-sect-25-082.html

 

[Pharm Frog]

My wife just retired as a public school elementary teacher and the schools where she taught did the pledge every morning. However, they were in smaller city districts so you may very well be right.

Edit: wife just told me reciting the pledge each day in public schools is Texas state law:
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/education-code/educ-sect-25-082.html

Many states have pledge laws and they are being consistently tested in the courts. This actually is a strategy to get the pledge removed altogether by some organizations but several states have the word “opportunity” in their statutes so that to be in compliance doesn’t mean a pledge led corporately. Many of my work colleagues in the northeast can’t remember the last time their children recited the pledge. Was a topic of discussion several years ago in a D&I forum.

 

[Dogfrog]

Many states have pledge laws and they are being consistently tested in the courts. This actually is a strategy to get the pledge removed altogether by some organizations but several states have the word “opportunity” in their statutes so that to be in compliance doesn’t mean a pledge led corporately. Many of my work colleagues in the northeast can’t remember the last time their children recited the pledge. Was a topic of discussion several years ago in a D&I forum.

Understood. I lived in three northeastern states and that is not a surprise. Pretty sure there is compliance in Texas with exceptions for kids whose parents request non compliance in writing. Texas requires daily pledges to US and Texas flags, followed by one minute of silence for public schools.

 

[Brog]

Should put your hand over your heart, thumb pointing up, slight separation between thumb and forefinger, should be right hand over heart if you are right handed, left hand if you are left handed, hand should be in upper part of chest, not lower, chin should be slightly uplifted, mouth closed, eyes straight ahead, feet slightly parted on floor, head tilted backward just a bit. Anything else is disrespectful to our flag and nation.

 

[Peacefrog]

Should put your hand over your heart, thumb pointing up, slight separation between thumb and forefinger, should be right hand over heart if you are right handed, left hand if you are left handed, hand should be in upper part of chest, not lower, chin should be slightly uplifted, mouth closed, eyes straight ahead, feet slightly parted on floor, head tilted backward just a bit. Anything else is disrespectful to our flag and nation.

Jeez, I didn’t realize I wasn’t being specific enough. What angle am I supposed to tilt my head backward? I’m ambidextrous. Do I put both hands over my hearts? If us see someone with their left hand over their heart should I inquire as to their dominant hand or assume they are doing it wrong?

This has been very educational. Did you know Francis Bellamy was a Socialist?

 

[satis1103]

Now it's starting to seem a bit punctilious at this point. I don't remember specifically what I was taught as a child but whatever it was didn't leave me the impression that if one doesn't go hand-over-heart, one respects the flag less somehow.

But then again, everything is a litmus test when it comes to patriotism these days isn't it?

 

[Eight]

I coached my first game for 8 year old boys earlier today so I totally understand all of this completely.

one of the greatest bits or morning radio i ever heard was jeff van gundy talking about coaching one of his daughter's ymca basketball teams how to play team defense

 

[tcumaniac]

I’ve never done it unless I’m wearing a cap? In put my hands at my side......Never heard of this, unlike the pledge. Is it a thing or ones choice?

You’ve never heard of or noticed this? Really???

I’ve attended sporting events my entire life and it’s always been common place as nearly everyone does it.

And yes it is a “thing.” Is it mandatory? Obviously not. People have the freedom to do what they want.

BUT, it is technically part of the “Flag Code.”

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1)when the flag is displayed—
(A)
individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B)
members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C)
all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2)
when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

 

[Dogfrog]

Now it's starting to seem a bit punctilious at this point. I don't remember specifically what I was taught as a child but whatever it was didn't leave me the impression that if one doesn't go hand-over-heart, one respects the flag less somehow.

But then again, everything is a litmus test when it comes to patriotism these days isn't it?

Yes, but not to the extent of PC.