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TCU Poll Position AP and Coaches?

y2kFrog

Active Member
My power rankings based on who I was most impressed with and who won and was most physical and athletic is as follows:

1. Miami
2. Note Dame
3. Florida St.
4. LSU
5. TCU
6. Clemson
7. Ohio St

No one else was overly impressive.

I was probably more surprised about how we looked physically than how we played. I had a good feeling that with the combination of a veteran lineup combined with a strong finish last year that we would play solid. However, we had several guys that looked like beasts out there. Markus Deal plowing the whole line backwards by himself, Chapman look like he added a good 20 pounds, Barnes breaking away on the long run.
 

Brog

Full Member
I think that ranking is a function of their schedule as much as anything. They don't play Oregon, Penn State, or Michigan, so they are kind of set up to be this year's Indiana. It'll be interesting to see what the line would be if they played #13 Florida on a neutral field this week.

BTW, slightly off topic, but Florida plays:

at LSU
at Miami
Texas
at Texas A&M
Georgia
@ Ole Miss
Tennessee
Florida State

That's nuts.
Surely that's the hardest schedule in all of NCAA football.
 

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
Absolute crap of a poll, but what else is new?

Not cracking the Top 25 after that performance on the road against an ACC team is ridiculous given who is still ranked ahead of us this week after losses. No way we move an inch after the ACU game which means an unranked TCU will host a ranked SMU for the Skillet (if the ponies can get past the cubs). I hope the disrespect chip continues to be firmly planted on both shoulders rolling into the 20th.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Absolute crap of a poll, but what else is new?

Not cracking the Top 25 after that performance on the road against an ACC team is ridiculous given who is still ranked ahead of us this week after losses. No way we move an inch after the ACU game which means an unranked TCU will host a ranked SMU for the Skillet (if the ponies can get past the cubs). I hope the disrespect chip continues to be firmly planted on both shoulders rolling into the 20th.
Meh. Who cares. I hope we aren't ranked going into the SMU game.

Auburn isn't ranked either, and they beat a team on the road that is still getting some Top 25 points (by who I don't know). Georgia Tech isn't ranked and they beat Colorado on the road. We're ranked ahead of USF and they beat previously ranked #25 Boise St by 27 points. How do you figure that?

The bottom line is UNC was not supposed to be very good. Middle to bottom middle of the ACC. We moved up 15 spots in the rankings with that win, so it's not like nobody is giving us any credit.
 
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The Bad Guy

Active Member
Absolute crap of a poll, but what else is new?

Not cracking the Top 25 after that performance on the road against an ACC team is ridiculous given who is still ranked ahead of us this week after losses. No way we move an inch after the ACU game which means an unranked TCU will host a ranked SMU for the Skillet (if the ponies can get past the cubs). I hope the disrespect chip continues to be firmly planted on both shoulders rolling into the 20th.
Not worried at all. The ranking stuff will handle itself if we keep winning. The expanded playoff makes the ranking less meaningful now. We have to get to the conference final no matter what in the Big 12.

Bring on ACU and stay healthy. And let’s win the last iron skillet for awhile.
 

Wexahu

Full Member
Early season rankings are stupid and create a false hierarchy. That said, I do think until waiting to see just how bad UNC is before giving poll "credit" is reasonable on voter's parts.
Agree. The hierarchy that is created is only because you can only go on what you know and believe at the time. If you've got to rank teams today, it would be stupid to put TCU ahead of Georgia, just like it would be stupid to put Tulsa ahead of TCU. History tells us that. But as the weeks go by, the "false hierarchy" gradually goes away, and at the end of the year you've got a pretty accurate picture of where teams belong. That it might mirror the false hierarchy at the beginning of the year just means form held true for the most part. But if, say, Mississippi State who is ranked about 70th probably goes 13-0 or 12-1 this year, they are going to end up #1 or #2, it matters not one bit where they start the year.

So for the most part it's all just fodder to get people worked up.
 
Early season rankings are stupid and create a false hierarchy. That said, I do think waiting to see just how bad UNC is before giving poll "credit" is reasonable on voter's parts.
Agree. The hierarchy that is created is only because you can only go on what you know and believe at the time. If you've got to rank teams today, it would be stupid to put TCU ahead of Georgia, just like it would be stupid to put Tulsa ahead of TCU. History tells us that. But as the weeks go by, the "false hierarchy" gradually goes away, and at the end of the year you've got a pretty accurate picture of where teams belong. That it might mirror the false hierarchy at the beginning of the year just means form held true for the most part. But if, say, Mississippi State who is ranked about 70th probably goes 13-0 or 12-1 this year, they are going to end up #1 or #2, it matters not one bit where they start the year.

So for the most part it's all just fodder to get people worked up.
None of this is false, but rankings shape the conversations and to dismiss them as "stupid" or meaningless misses the big picture. Rankings affect TV ratings. They affect reputation. They affect how much attention your program is getting on all the TV shows and websites covering college football. They affect ticket sales and attendance, which has an effect on revenue. They eventually trickle into the early CFP rankings because those voters take who you beat/lost to and how they are ranked into consideration, even if they tell you they don't.

So while we can all agree that they are highly inaccurate at this point in the season, it's not a good idea to just dismiss their meaning and relevance.
 
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