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[BABYFACE]

LOL, you don't get to decide what we talk about. We can talk about multiple things. And we are now talking about the woman's bad behavior.

I have a question, why are you trying to make this about women and their behavior instead of the guy’s bad behavior on the plane? You seem to have us all puzzled by this.

 

[satis1103]

Anyone who claims "so-and-so's actions caused me to do such-and-such" is passing the buck, short of a gun put to your head literally or metaphorically. I used to think like that sometimes until I figured out that was completely counterproductive to my own success.

So stupid the deflection talk about the girl's text. The point is he went ape [ Finebaum ] on a plane. I don't care if it's because Trump instructed him to. You are ultimately responsible for your own actions. And to try to divest that responsibility is only doing onesself a disservice.

 

[Zubaz]

Earlier, you said the woman did nothing wrong. Now you are calling it a minor social faux pas.

No. Earlier, I said this:

There's no equivocation to be made between what is, at absolute worst, a social faux pas (and in today's world, not even sure it's that) vs. a drunken criminal action that ends you up in jail. None.

This whole "Women need to be held responsible" line is bunk. She didn't do anything wrong. She broke up with her boyfriend, as is her perfect right to do.​

Pretty clear in that context that "did nothing wrong" means that she did nothing wrong to incite this idiot's behavior.

If you want to argue that social norms might suggest she break up in person rather than over the phone, then whatever. It's certainly not something I would argue rises to the level of labeling "bad behavior", or attempting to assign a moral responsibility for someone else's behavior. In today's world, given the circumstances, it might very well have been appropriate. At absolute worst it was a mild breach of social protocol. Either way, there's absolutely no equivocation to be made.

If you see a woman as capable of making adult decisions, you won't have a problem saying her behavior here was crap and that she shouldn't have done it

You have no way of concluding that "her behavior was crap". That's kind of the point.

But you can't bring yourself to do that because you see women as fragile little dolls who can't be morally responsible for their decisions. Hence, why you absolve her of all responsibility and try to diminish her behavior.

Says the guy that spent the first three pages of the thread defending / downplaying Vodka McSpazzout's behavior. Right.

 

[satis1103]

I have a question, why are you trying to make this about women and their behavior instead of the guy’s bad behavior on the plane? You seem to have us all puzzled by this.

Probably because he's THAT DUDE

 

[The Frog to be Named Later]

Probably because he's THAT DUDE

Or THAT DUDE’S helicopter dad

 

[satis1103]

Or THAT DUDE’S helicopter dad

One or the other yup

 

[Mean Purple]

what a d-bag. that photo. ha. always funny when a metrosexual tries to be tough. thanks, gillette.

 

[HToady]

With life comes tragedy. Your parents die, your girlfriend breaks up with you, your wife cheats on you, you lose a job etc.
How you handle tragedy, that come to everyone, is reflective of the measure of a man (or women) that you are.
Sometime it takes parenting that allows you to fail on your own, that build this measure.
You certainly don't have the right (or excuse) to take it out on anyone else, particularly people that are even associated with you.

 

[tcudoc]

Vodka McSpazzout's behavior.

For clarity. He was a Bacardi Rum guy...

 

[BABYFACE]

Not trying to pile on but rather ask the question: If a poster is on an island of thought in a 6 page thread, would a little reexamination of their premise by he or she be in order?

Sometimes, it is okay to admit that one Curt’ed and we all move on.

 

[tcudoc]

Not trying to pile on but rather ask the question: If a poster is on an island of thought in a 6 page thread, would a little reexamination of the premise by he or she be in order?

Sometimes, it is okay to admit that one Curt’ed and we all move on.

The ability to fight this fight for 6 pages and the ability to consider you might be wrong do not coexist in the same person. So, no. We've all seen it too many times. Whether it is black jackets, QB skills, Jewish symbolism, or whatever. Backing down might occur at page one or two, but never after page 6.

 

[Eight]

Not trying to pile on but rather ask the question: If a poster is on an island of thought in a 6 page thread, would a little reexamination of the premise by he or she be in order?

Sometimes, it is okay to admit that one Curt’ed and we all move on.

as one who has had his own don quixote moments on this site thisisourtime either has had his heart crushed by some soul devouring succubus of a woman or he is throwing out enough chum to land jaws

 

[Moose Stuff]

There’s been some weird [ Finebaum ] on this board but this is one of the most bizarre threads I’ve ever read.

 

[Surfrog]

semi-shocked it's not been sent to general land yet.

 

[Mean Purple]

semi-shocked it's not been sent to general land yet.

"Forget it. He's rolling."

 

[Mean Purple]

Doubt they were exaggerated if he got 6 months. He went thru due process in court. It’s not like the airline convicted and sentenced him.

So is that braniac sitting in the pokie over the pond?
That'll learn him.

 

[Mean Purple]

Uh ... yeah ... so when you read down in the article, there are some items that give indication of why he bit a person and squeezed a person's arm. Because the were grabbing his head and a dude put a finger in his mount. Not execusing the other part, the dude should have rightly had his finger bit off at that point. In the end, its a bunch of brits and an person too drunk to fly. So scheiss em.

From the article w/the video:
One passenger, Stephen Mumford, attempted to restrain Libby by holding the Texan’s head.

One of his fingers slid into Libby’s mouth and the journalism student bit him.

Libby, a student at Texas Christian University, then squeezed the arm of Samantha Jackson, a BA air hostess, as she attempted to restrain him with Mr Mumford.

 

[PurplFrawg]

semi-shocked it's not been sent to general land yet.

naw, this is some entertaining stuff.

 

[ThisIsOurTime]

I have a question, why are you trying to make this about women and their behavior instead of the guy’s bad behavior on the plane? You seem to have us all puzzled by this.

Her behavior was a part of the story. Why shouldn't it be considered and discussed? Odds are if the woman doesn't break up by text, this whole event doesn't take place.
If we can all agree that the men's behavior was bad and he should have been punished, why is it is so hard for people to say that she shouldn't be breaking up with people over text? Most of the people already agree it was a crappy thing to do. A few are trying to claim it is a minor thing like forgetting to put a napkin under a drink at a cocktail party but that is just excuse making.

As a society, we should be condemning bad behavior in women just as we do with men. When we show an unwillingness to do so, it translates into a certain percentage of men doing stupid stuff like this guy. We are interconnected and to pretend otherwise is naive.

 

[Surfrog]

Her behavior was a part of the story. Why shouldn't it be considered and discussed? Odds are if the woman doesn't break up by text, this whole event doesn't take place.
If we can all agree that the men's behavior was bad and he should have been punished, why is it is so hard for people to say that she shouldn't be breaking up with people over text? Most of the people already agree it was a crappy thing to do. A few are trying to claim it is a minor thing like forgetting to put a napkin under a drink at a [ the old ricardo ]tail party but that is just excuse making.

As a society, we should be condemning bad behavior in women just as we do with men. When we show an unwillingness to do so, it translates into a certain percentage of men doing stupid stuff like this guy. We are interconnected and to pretend otherwise is naive.

Her behavior does not warrant his action point blank period.

wouldn't matter if it was male, female, dog, it, or friggen ET. To cast the blame of his actions on her is dumbassery and whataboutism at it's finest.

PS. you'd do great in Washington.