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<blockquote data-quote="gohornedfrogs" data-source="post: 3157575" data-attributes="member: 3599"><p>I think they are making more out of the 'cross country' golf thing than is really there. Hole #11 is the only real big change. Personally, I think they could have addressed that by having #10 fairway start 100 yards further down towards the green. There were never any trees that blocked that play before. Playing #1 down #9 fairway is risky during a US Open. The #9 fairway slopes hard right-to-left away from you. I think it's harder to hit that narrow piece than the actual #1 fairway unless it's soaking wet. And, you have to hit it right over the top of huge galleries -- so the visual isn't all that appealing. Playing #3 from #4 fairway is the one where there's really not a solution. There were never any trees there to obstruct that play, anyway. It's only relevant with right-side pin locations, though. What I find interesting in all of this is that it defies what Scott Fawcett and a few other data miners have discovered -- chasing angles is not worth the risk.</p><p></p><p>The other changes will be to the green complexes. They are enlarging several to make room for more difficult pin placements (as if they already aren't diabolical). </p><p></p><p>I haven't seen the bunker plan. I'm assuming it will be to bring the bunkers into play where the pros are hitting it these days and make them more penal. When they say "reconfiguring Oakmont’s bunkers to match the intentions of founding architect H.C. Fownes," that says making them more penal to me. Like most old courses, they've stretched it about as far as they can, so adding length is not really an option. I think they are lengthening #14 -- but I think they should play it from the regular tees a day or two to tempt guys to drive the green if the wind is blowing out of the East. You'd see some wild scores. Unfortunately, they already have a true driveable par 4 in #17, and another one (#2) that is reachable under the right conditions (wind out of the West).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gohornedfrogs, post: 3157575, member: 3599"] I think they are making more out of the 'cross country' golf thing than is really there. Hole #11 is the only real big change. Personally, I think they could have addressed that by having #10 fairway start 100 yards further down towards the green. There were never any trees that blocked that play before. Playing #1 down #9 fairway is risky during a US Open. The #9 fairway slopes hard right-to-left away from you. I think it's harder to hit that narrow piece than the actual #1 fairway unless it's soaking wet. And, you have to hit it right over the top of huge galleries -- so the visual isn't all that appealing. Playing #3 from #4 fairway is the one where there's really not a solution. There were never any trees there to obstruct that play, anyway. It's only relevant with right-side pin locations, though. What I find interesting in all of this is that it defies what Scott Fawcett and a few other data miners have discovered -- chasing angles is not worth the risk. The other changes will be to the green complexes. They are enlarging several to make room for more difficult pin placements (as if they already aren't diabolical). I haven't seen the bunker plan. I'm assuming it will be to bring the bunkers into play where the pros are hitting it these days and make them more penal. When they say "reconfiguring Oakmont’s bunkers to match the intentions of founding architect H.C. Fownes," that says making them more penal to me. Like most old courses, they've stretched it about as far as they can, so adding length is not really an option. I think they are lengthening #14 -- but I think they should play it from the regular tees a day or two to tempt guys to drive the green if the wind is blowing out of the East. You'd see some wild scores. Unfortunately, they already have a true driveable par 4 in #17, and another one (#2) that is reachable under the right conditions (wind out of the West). [/QUOTE]
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