FrogAbroad
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Give 'em Hell, Dutch! ^^
TCU Athletics wants you to know you don't mean [ Finebaum ] to them
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The TCU Football Jerk
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Anyone that donates money to nil for kids who can jump ship after one year is a sucker. Good thing Ireland has all that sweet Lucky Charms cash.
TCUdirtbag
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The idea that TCU about its fans is absolutely insane. If TCU didn't care about fans, they wouldn't:
- Invest tens of millions of dollars per year in football
- Include highest-level D1 athletics as one of 5 pillars in the university's strategic plan
- Max out the new student-athlete revenue share ($21M/yr) to ensure we compete not only in--but at the top of--the Big 12 and Power 4
- Employ fan experience, customer service, and similar athletics personnel
- Build fan-serving infrastructure, game day experiences, etc.
- Ditch the SMU series to up the average number of home football games
- Literally try to move heaven and earth to be competitive
The self-centered, ignorant whine campaign over this rather insignificant game is ridiculous and completely lacks perspective. Easy to see why this board is dying off relative to its heyday. Old folks with old ideas stuck in the days of old. It ain't all about you, but if you look around a lot of it is about you, you just take it for granted and can never be satisfied.
ShadowFrog
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I do kinda miss playin’ the Dragons.
Was one day hoping we’d do a non-con with Delta State. Now THAT woulda been mascot sideline fight of the century….that we probabl’ woulda lost.
Fair enough, and I'm not really your audience since I'm not all that worked up about it, but if a large number of fans doesn't think it is about them, then it's not about them.
Ditching the SMU series because supposedly adding another home game was that important, and then pulling this stunt, doesn't make sense. And how does this increase our chances of being competitive? Is it really better for the football program to play a game in Dublin, Ireland rather than Fort Worth? Why couldn't we play this year's game in Dublin and next year's in Fort Worth? Why wouldn't UNC agree to that, if it's something that is beneficial to fans and a program?
TCUdirtbag
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I'll start with the end and work backwards.
Wy couldn't we play this year's game in Dublin and next year's in Fort Worth? Because K-State and Iowa State announced they're booked for the 2025 Ireland a year ago. We were invited in 2026, not 2025. Why wouldn't UNC agree to that...? Again, because they weren't invited in 2025.
And how does this increase our chances of being competitive? Eyeballs, brand exposure, and cash. Only P4 game of the week/first game of the season in 2026. You know who we were going to be up against for TV slot and eyeballs in Week 1 in 2026 if we stayed in Fort Worth? Notre Dame-Wisconsin at Lamebau, Bama @ WVU, Clemson @ LSU, Wazzu @ Washington, UCLA @ Cal, Baylor @ Auburn, Boise @ Oregon, Colorado @ Georgia Tech, and Miami @ South Carolina. Is it really better for the football program to play a game in Dublin, Ireland rather than Fort Worth? Let's not act like this is some novel opportunity that other schools haven't deemed worthwhile. These teams have recently given up home games to go to Dublin: Wisconsin (2027), K-State (2025), Florida St (2024), and Nebraska (2022). Not bad company.
Ditching the SMU series because supposedly adding another home game was that important, and then pulling this stunt, doesn't make sense. Beg to differ. Ditching the SMU series allows us to take advantage of this financial boon while still having 7 home games.
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Look, I get some folks who can't/won't travel are disappointed. That's fair. But this is a football game against UNC, not Ohio State or LSU. Losing those sucked. This one just doesn't move the needle anywhere near the degree some of you are acting. It by no means was going to be a marquee game of 2026 Week 1. At least sort of trust the experts looking at the money and guiding our program. This just isn't that big of a deal.
TopFrog
Lifelong Frog
Are you part of the administration? You are always fast to defend them.
Moving a P4 game from our stadium and home field is a big deal. Whether it is LSU, Ohio State or UNC. Are the Tar Heels a "marquee" game? No but they are a P4 and a win over them is huge in the grand scheme and team goals.
Ditching SMU was a bad decision. Period. Especially now that we are moving the UNC game and taking the experience of that game away from the fans as well as giving up a home field advantage in a system where wins are paramount to make the playoffs. Why take away that edge? It is BS they get it that advantage and a neutral field while act like little [hundinnen ] still in CUSA.
Right, there was already a game in Ireland for this year. So what should we have done? Say no. We will see you in Fort Worth you powder blue [ "illegitimate Baylor boys" ].
The Ireland game is a novelty act. A gimmick. There are not going to be that many eyeballs. Winning and making the playoffs garners eyeballs and good PR. The AD's job is to do everything he can to help make that happen. Not remove games from our home schedule to fly across the Atlantic and play. No one gives a scheiss about that.
That most fans are unhappy is telling and we are right to push back and let the AD and the school know that this move on top of others in recent years is enough.
NovaScotiaFrog
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Last years game drew 5 million people. The year before that 3.8 million. The year before that 4.4 million.
Highest rated TCU game last year was 2.3 million (Texas Tech). Only 4 other games topped a million (Stanford, UCF, Houston, and the bowl). Three of them werent even on traditional television.
We are looking at roughly double the audience of our best game, somewhere between 3-4 times most games. That's a lot of eyeballs.
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FrogBall09
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If they were only getting a new coach…Not to discount the (potential) loss of a P4 home game, but just FYI I watched a UNC game in Minnesota, and it wasn't that great.
Just adding levity.
froginmn
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FrogBall09
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Ummm….they have done all that you listed because football makes money - not for fans
You seriously can’t be that stupid
froginmn
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LOL. The on site fans have always lined up to watch coaches (I watched the hell out of Mack Brown in that game). In 2026 Belichick won't be a new coach; he may add more TV eyeballs, though, this first year.
Dutch
T C U Froooogs
Blah blah blah. TCU invests in athletics to stay in business. I wish we had something else to hang our hat on.
Spike
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I pray that my wife is healthy enough to make the trip. She is on board w/ the idea.
Spike
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I thought the idea of ditching SMU was because they stunk. Suddenly they are quite competitive in a P4 conference. We are also no longer their super bowl. Never minded having the doable road trip. Then again if someone hires their coach and a few of their studs transfer out they may not be so good.
I agree with him. Does that mean I work for TCU, too? Dick statement Top. I understand your anger, but it is totally unnecessary to say garbage like this.
He is right about this forum slipping. This is another example of that. It is OK to disagree with you & the mob.
frogetaboutit
Full Member
Hmmm. Where have I heard this before?
An-Cap Frog
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Douglas Murray?
HFrog1999
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Nobody outside of diehard TCU fans or UNC fans are going to care about this game. Playing in Ireland is not even remotely special or interesting. The ratings will suck. This will only benefit the Irish hotels and whiskey distilleries. It’s just a way to soak more money from the fans
BrewingFrog
Was I supposed to type something here?
The Irish Distillers will benefit if I go. The rest of you won't make a bump...
Nobody outside of diehard TCU fans or UNC fans are going to care about this game. Playing in Ireland is not even remotely special or interesting. The ratings will suck. This will only benefit the Irish hotels and whiskey distilleries. It’s just a way to soak more money from the fans
Teeling is a wonderful stop. And, they do make the best Irish Coffee.
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