TCU a "Christian" school?

[TopFrog]

I was going to stay away form the queer class issue but a headline today a "Christian University Offered a Course on the Queer Art of Drag.'"

My understanding of TCU today is that it operates independently of the Disciples of Christ. It is a private university with Christian in the name, but is not in a Bible- or religion-based school. Is there a requirement to take a religion studies course?

Brite Divinity School is still a program offered and, according to online sources, is affiliated with the Disciples of Christ and approved by the University Senate of the United Methodist Church. It receives support for its Baptist Studies program from the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. So if you want to pursue that course, calling and studies you can. Does that make TCU a "Christian" school?

A true Christian school would never offer such a program. TCU is a liberal arts school, with an emphasis on liberal. I think a reason the school asked media for "Just TCU please" was to distance itself from identification, or mis-identification, as a "Christian" school.

Deep and others with better knowledge can explain the name, affiliation, relationships, etc.

 

[tyler durden]

What part of homosexuality or drag makes it un-Christian?

 

[Hoosierfrog]

Just one more nail in the coffin. A lot began with Just TCU. But in reality TCU hasn’t been a Christian school for decades. About the only religious tie was a tenuous relation by having to take a 3 hr Christian course and 3 hrs of religions of the world in the late 60s and early 70s. Other than that were no different than any other university. We had our drug dealers, antI war protest, racial protests, our first black Homecoming Queen (not inferring of that is non-Christian). During my time TCU was never a monolith of Christian piety with Bible thumping minions walking across campus to chapel every day. However, we have always been a more conservative more Christan-than-not common sense school. I think this whole LBGT drag nonsense is being questioned on a common sense basis more so than Christian.

Someone at TCU doesn’t seem to know their audience in allowing this drag BS to even get a foothold. I can’t imagine donors being very pleased with this. At least this one isn’t and my wife and I are not likely I that top 10% that they worry about. Allowing a tiny percentage of the less 4% gay population to get this kind of representation is heinous. It’s bas enough tv and movies have it in every production, we don’t need it in higher education.

 

[Toad Jones]

I was going to stay away form the queer class issue but a headline today a "Christian University Offered a Course on the Queer Art of Drag.'"

My understanding of TCU today is that it operates independently of the Disciples of Christ. It is a private university with Christian in the name, but is not in a Bible- or religion-based school. Is there a requirement to take a religion studies course?

Brite Divinity School is still a program offered and, according to online sources, is affiliated with the Disciples of Christ and approved by the University Senate of the United Methodist Church. It receives support for its Baptist Studies program from the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. So if you want to pursue that course, calling and studies you can. Does that make TCU a "Christian" school?

A true Christian school would never offer such a program. TCU is a liberal arts school, with an emphasis on liberal. I think a reason the school asked media for "Just TCU please" was to distance itself from identification, or mis-identification, as a "Christian" school.

Deep and others with better knowledge can explain the name, affiliation, relationships, etc.

You're right on course. A few years back, maybe in the sixties, a movement began to a more liberal art school but never, never trek to the obvious left it appears to be taking. That Queen of Drag is purely disgusting and wholly embarrassing!!!!! I venture to say if a pole were taken by alumni and friends, they would be overwhelming say, no, no, no to the Qu of drag. I wonder where our trustees stand, that, they would allow /stand for this nonsense. I guarantee if I sat on that board, you would have heard me shouting into some Dept head's face, just about three inches from his or her nose and I damn sure wouldn't be nice either.

 

[Hoosierfrog]

What part of homosexuality or drag makes it un-Christian?

No part of it makes it Christian either.

Now, just a guess here, in Jesus’ time this behavior would likely get you stoned to death.

 

[tjcoffice]

I think this best starts with a definition of a so-called "Christian" school. At least during my time at TCU - late 1970's, one religion course was required. But, almost everyone took the course that talked about all religions. It was a comparative religion course. I minored in religion and could never get into that course. It was so popular. I do not view a comparateive religion course - with its global look at all the major religions of the world - as Christian, at all. IIRC, the course looked at Jewish, Hindu, Moslem and Christian - so I heard because I could never get into the course. I heard that through the 1960's, attendance at weekly chapel was required. I guess that might have made TCU a "Christian" school? More or less? So, no, I do not agree that offering a course on drag shows makes a school Christian or not Christian. Anymore than mandating a comparative religion course with its global look at all the major religions of the world - made us Christian in the late 1970's.

 

[Double D]

 

[HToady]

Most importnt fact to students about this class....is it an easy "A"?

 

[allclearforfrogs]

TCU, I think, has distanced itself from "Christian" in order to not be associated with prejudice and sexism. There are parts of the bible that have been interpreted as advocating for women not being in leadership/teaching . I'm not sure a modern university wants to be associated with stuff like that.

 

[Eight]

TCU, I think, has distanced itself from "Christian" in order to not be associated with prejudice and sexism. There are parts of the bible that have been interpreted as advocating for women not being in leadership/teaching . I'm not sure a modern university wants to be associated with stuff like that.

there are also parts of the bible in which women are the leaders in the church, priscilia and lydia for example

if tcu opted to disassociate from christian as you state, not to be associated with prejudice and sexism i am fairly certain those who made that decision actually never studied the bible

your continued mention of prejudice and sexism each time these topics come up have become as predictable as the comments by deep ellum

 

[allclearforfrogs]

there are also parts of the bible in which women are the leaders in the church, priscilia and lydia for example

if tcu opted to disassociate from christian as you state, not to be associated with prejudice and sexism i am fairly certain those who made that decision actually never studied the bible

your continued mention of prejudice and sexism each time these topics come up have become as predictable as the comments by deep ellum

I mention it because its a big issue with large sects of the population, but just LGBTQ+. Didn't the southern Baptist convention ban all women clergy? Why? Why do many churches only have male elders?

 

[Eight]

I mention it because its a big issue with large sects of the population, but just LGBTQ+. Didn't the southern Baptist convention ban all women clergy? Why? Why do many churches only have male elders?

so if one segment of a group people do something then it can rightfully applied to all people in the group?

please tell me that if you are a tcu grad you have better reasoning skills that what you response implied

issues of sexism, prejudice, and condemnation extend across humankind so to pin that to one group is folly, there are christian groups that do as you say and they did so based upon their interpretation of scripture

there are also groups that haven't done what you say, but you focus on the one and not the other

 

[tyler durden]

No part of it makes it Christian either.

Now, just a guess here, in Jesus’ time this behavior would likely get you stoned to death.

Didn’t say it does. Just saying plenty of good Christians are gay. And there is nothing inherent in someone loving someone else that says un-Christian to me.

Just always a ton of hypocrisy when it comes to this. They very people who think drag shows are the downfall of Christianity, seem to be unbothered by the Showgirls gyrating in very suggestive routines in the 4th quarter.

 

[tyler durden]

Just one more nail in the coffin. A lot began with Just TCU. But in reality TCU hasn’t been a Christian school for decades. About the only religious tie was a tenuous relation by having to take a 3 hr Christian course and 3 hrs of religions of the world in the late 60s and early 70s. Other than that were no different than any other university. We had our drug dealers, antI war protest, racial protests, our first black Homecoming Queen (not inferring of that is non-Christian). During my time TCU was never a monolith of Christian piety with Bible thumping minions walking across campus to chapel every day. However, we have always been a more conservative more Christan-than-not common sense school. I think this whole LBGT drag nonsense is being questioned on a common sense basis more so than Christian.

Someone at TCU doesn’t seem to know their audience in allowing this drag BS to even get a foothold. I can’t imagine donors being very pleased with this. At least this one isn’t and my wife and I are not likely I that top 10% that they worry about. Allowing a tiny percentage of the less 4% gay population to get this kind of representation is heinous. It’s bas enough tv and movies have it in every production, we don’t need it in higher education.

Black Homecoming queens are equated with drug dealers in your world?

 

[An-Cap Frog]

I mention it because its a big issue with large sects of the population, but just LGBTQ+. Didn't the southern Baptist convention ban all women clergy? Why? Why do many churches only have male elders?

Tim Keller RIP.

 

[Eight]

Tim Keller RIP.

keller's books are truly outstanding reading and he was such a great ambassador for the christian faith

 

[Hoosierfrog]

Didn’t say it does. Just saying plenty of good Christians are gay. And there is nothing inherent in someone loving someone else that says un-Christian to me.

Just always a ton of hypocrisy when it comes to this. They very people who think drag shows are the downfall of Christianity, seem to be unbothered by the Showgirls gyrating in very suggestive routines in the 4th quarter.

Plenty? I’m guessing none of them are donning nun habits at Dodger stadium.

 

[What Up Toad]

No part of it makes it Christian either.

Now, just a guess here, in Jesus’ time this behavior would likely get you stoned to death.

And Jesus would be the one to say, "He who is without sin, cast the first stone."

 

[Hoosierfrog]

Black Homecoming queens are equated with drug dealers in your world?

You inferred that from the post?!!

I think the inference was pretty clear that I was saying we’re closer to most universities than somewhere like BYU run by religious dogmatics.

 

[Hoosierfrog]

there are also parts of the bible in which women are the leaders in the church, priscilia and lydia for example

if tcu opted to disassociate from christian as you state, not to be associated with prejudice and sexism i am fairly certain those who made that decision actually never studied the bible

your continued mention of prejudice and sexism each time these topics come up have become as predictable as the comments by deep ellum

So true. There were gospels of Mary and others removed by the early Catholic Church in the Counsil of Nicaea in 325 AD.