• The KillerFrogs

State of college football (and TCU) summed up.

@TechAdvisor
Bottom line is TTech has to live with their success this year being bought. The money was spent; this is truth; an uneven playing field. Similar to the Dodgers winning back-to-back World Series and we know why, but TTech likely won’t win the national championship, settling for a Big 12 championship with that money. Is it worth it? That is not nearly as satisfying as having done it like TCU - having a legendary coach that developed a program over years and beat the odds.
 

Wexahu

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Bottom line is TTech has to live with their success this year being bought. The money was spent; this is truth; an uneven playing field. Similar to the Dodgers winning back-to-back World Series and we know why, but TTech likely won’t win the national championship, settling for a Big 12 championship with that money. Is it worth it? That is not nearly as satisfying as having done it like TCU - having a legendary coach that developed a program over years and beat the odds.
Yep, agreed.

Unfortunately, this is the landscape now. Money dictates all, or almost all. Yeah, you can probably coach or scheme your way to another win or two but whatever success you have will be short-lived unless the financial commitment is there. And it's every year, can't skip a beat. If Tech's boosters decide they need a break from all the check writing, those good players will be out of there so fast because someone else will sure be offering a another bag full of cash. The way TCU did it 20 years ago cannot be done again in this environment, no matter how much we convince ourselves otherwise.

Takes a hell of a lot of fun out of it.
 

HornyWartyToad

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Maybe they were developed and schemed up better............at the more successful team.
So in his 4th year in the NFL, after gaining 2,000 yards yards in a season and being named All-Pro, Saquon Barkley needed to be, “developed?” LOL. Your razor needs some serious sharpening, Occam.
iDK why you have this emotional need to deny the obvious: TT bought a [ Finebaum ]load of talent and it elevated them immediately. Why is that so hard to accept? I’ve got Tech friends who will readily accept that for what it is and be happy for it.
Put another way: If Coach Joey and friends are so awesome at, “developing,” then why didn’t they, “develop,” the players they recruited, instead of going to the portal and buying an entire new defensive line? LOL.
Maybe they were developed and schemed up better............at the more successful team.
 

Wexahu

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So in his 4th year in the NFL, after gaining 2,000 yards yards in a season and being named All-Pro, Saquon Barkley needed to be, “developed?” LOL. Your razor needs some serious sharpening, Occam.
iDK why you have this emotional need to deny the obvious: TT bought a [ Finebaum ]load of talent and it elevated them immediately. Why is that so hard to accept? I’ve got Tech friends who will readily accept that for what it is and be happy for it.
Put another way: If Coach Joey and friends are so awesome at, “developing,” then why didn’t they, “develop,” the players they recruited, instead of going to the portal and buying an entire new defensive line? LOL.
My Tech friends all acknowledge that too, and have no problem with it. They bought a good team. Good for them, it’s what you gotta do these days.
 

Don Sanders

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Bottom line is TTech has to live with their success this year being bought. The money was spent; this is truth; an uneven playing field. Similar to the Dodgers winning back-to-back World Series and we know why, but TTech likely won’t win the national championship, settling for a Big 12 championship with that money. Is it worth it? That is not nearly as satisfying as having done it like TCU - having a legendary coach that developed a program over years and beat the odds.
Hope that TECH does well! They are sure better than we are and that is a fact!!!
 

Mean Purple

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My Tech friends all acknowledge that too, and have no problem with it. They bought a good team. Good for them, it’s what you gotta do these days.
I don't think it gets you all the way. Ohio State, UGA, Bama ... they have stars who have been with the school for a while and developed/coached up. That time together helps them gel.
I would like to see Tech or BYU get all the way to the final. But I'm not sure either gets there. Just depends who they (tech or tech/byu) play in their first game.
 

HornedFrogAz

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Sad. He's a good coach and a good guy. Babysitting prima donna twerps, juggling egos and money, none of these things are his forte yet the New Game forces one to deal with it no matter how absurd.

Guys like this are forced out, while scum like Kiffin thrive.
100%. It's also why whenever I hear someone is a "player's coach" now, I know that just means they let the players do whatever they want with no repercussions. Which is how you wind up with the talent we have that plays below their ability & is wildly undisciplined.

How can you ever get another GP who legitimately cared about his guys becoming good men, community leaders, and actually graduating..... when the entire system is now structured in a way that the overwhelming majority of highly sought after players will be the inverse on every count & pursue paydays to three or four different schools?
 

Mean Purple

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100%. It's also why whenever I hear someone is a "player's coach" now, I know that just means they let the players do whatever they want with no repercussions. Which is how you wind up with the talent we have that plays below their ability & is wildly undisciplined.

How can you ever get another GP who legitimately cared about his guys becoming good men, community leaders, and actually graduating..... when the entire system is now structured in a way that the overwhelming majority of highly sought after players will be the inverse on every count & pursue paydays to three or four different schools?
we need a tripple like button for this one.
 

Wexahu

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100%. It's also why whenever I hear someone is a "player's coach" now, I know that just means they let the players do whatever they want with no repercussions. Which is how you wind up with the talent we have that plays below their ability & is wildly undisciplined.

How can you ever get another GP who legitimately cared about his guys becoming good men, community leaders, and actually graduating..... when the entire system is now structured in a way that the overwhelming majority of highly sought after players will be the inverse on every count & pursue paydays to three or four different schools?
Where is all this talent? Who?

Eric McAlister was the 37th rated WR coming out of the TP two years ago. Josh Hoover was a 3-star, ranked the 42nd best QB in his class. Jordan Dwyer was the 18th rated WR in the TP last year. Joseph Manjack was the 99th rated WR in the TP. Far as I know we have zero O-lineman or D-lineman who are really NFL prospects. Maybe Markus Deal? Do we have any elite talent at LB or DB? I'm not really seeing it, please enlighten me on who those players are.

Seriously, what makes you think we have some super talented roster that the coaches just can't figure out how to use or coach?
 

TechAdvisor

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Bottom line is TTech has to live with their success this year being bought. The money was spent; this is truth; an uneven playing field.
Can you give me an example of a CFB program in a power conference that didn't "spend money" on a roster???

How is it an "uneven playing field"? Which rule did someone break to make it "uneven"???
Similar to the Dodgers winning back-to-back World Series and we know why, but TTech likely won’t win the national championship, settling for a Big 12 championship with that money. Is it worth it?
Something is worth what someone is willing to pay.

Texas Tech has been in the conference for 30 years and never won a conference title, to those who donated, it's worth it.

That is not nearly as satisfying as having done it like TCU - having a legendary coach that developed a program over years and beat the odds.
A Championship trophy is the same, regardless of how you got there.........and I thought TCU had to share that title with Baylor?

I would think an outright title where you beat all of the top teams and won the championship game would be more satisfying than sharing something with Baylor.
 
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