So who is the actual QB this week/moving forward?

[ShreveFrog]

@Fosterpark Squatter - Aaron, Matt and Bo Schobel, all former Frogs.

Aaron was a 9-year DE for the Bills, 2nd round pick in ‘01.

Brother Matt played 7 years as a TE for the Bengals and Eagles, 3rd round pick in ‘02. He’s now the head coach at Columbus and his son, Adam, is committed to Baylor (‘25). I believe Matt played QB in high school.

Story on Adam: https://www.texasfootball.com/artic...or-amidst-tcu-family-legacy?ref=related_title

Cousin Bo was a 4th round pick by the Titans in ‘04 as a DE and was a 5 year NFL journeyman.

 

[BrewingFrog]

THT almost went to Baylor, im a relatively younger fan what's the lineage here?

Back in the mists of time, TCU had a QB recruit from Columbus named Aaron Schobel. Gary Patterson thought he would make a far better DE, so he became just that. He was a monster at that position, and wound up in the NFL for 10 years or so playing for the Bills. He had a brother, and a cousin who played for TCU, who were also pretty fine players, and Patterson joked that any young Schobels would have a scholarship waiting for them.

And, yes, the restaurant in Columbus is their family's place.

 

[TopFrog]

@Fosterpark Squatter - Aaron, Matt and Bo Schobel, all former Frogs.

Aaron was a 9-year DE for the Bills, 2nd round pick in ‘01.

Brother Matt played 7 years as a TE for the Bengals and Eagles, 3rd round pick in ‘02. He’s now the head coach at Columbus and
His son, Adam, is committed to Baylor (‘25).
I believe Matt played QB in high school.

Cousin Bo was a 4th round pick by the Titans in ‘04 as a DE and was a 5 years NFL journeyman.

Dad also played for the Frogs IIRC

 

[ShreveFrog]

@TopFrog - Aaron and Matt’s dad?

 

[FloridaFrog76129]

THT almost went to Baylor, im a relatively younger fan what's the lineage here?

Are you 19?

 

[G Mother Froggen P]

Happens all the time. And yes, there are sources, reliable ones, that said CM was pretty much promised the job if he came to TCU. You don't have to believe it for it to be true. Whatever. CM will probably be a good G5 QB.

You think Arch Manning wasn't promised the starting job next year? He'll 100% be gone if Ewers comes back.

Ewers is coming back

 

[Prince of Purpoole II]

Failed is a bit harsh imo, also no one seems to mention the Hoover pick right before half against the Horns.

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I don’t call what CM did this year success, do you?

I have no personal feelings against him. In fact I wanted him to succeed and defended him many times early in the year.

If your point is what he produced is not failure as compared to Hoover that is damning with faint praise bc I don’t feel great about rolling with Josh next year either but of the two I know that Hoover is who I would go with. About that I would not think twice.

 

[TCURiggs]

Agree with a lot that has been said. I think Chandler got a bad rap with a lot of our fans this season (per usual with QBs), as we didn't know how bad/mediocre this team was until the season played out a bit. Chandler made some boneheaded plays at times, as Hoover certainly has, but they also both showed plenty of talent/ability as well. Chandler's stats are actually better than Josh's, although you can argue that the defenses they faced weren't comparable. I had plenty of arguments throughout the season with buddies that "Chandler isn't the problem here," and I think Josh's 2-4 (or 2-3.5) record speaks to that as well. My contention was that Chandler likely gave us the better chance to win this season, when healthy, but once he got hurt for an extended period of time, I think it's only wise to keep rolling with Hoover for the future.

I don't know if they are just protecting Hoover by not running him more, but I feel like that's a difference maker between the two. Chandler is more shifty/quicker, which makes him a more effective runner, but maybe they're just not letting Josh do as much of that since we don't have another good option if he gets hurt? Either way, that adds a much needed dynamic that I think makes Chandler the better option if it's apples-to-apples, but I think Josh is capable enough to do that more often. That showed on the rushing TD he had on Saturday when he finally kept one.

 

[PO Frog]

If "the plan" is like any of Briles' other plans, we're pretty much screwed. Against decent opposition, we haven't managed to consistently do anything, and OU has a pretty danged good defense.

While I have a great deal of confidence in Hoover, and believe he is The Man going forward, without protection to execute what he is tasked with he is as powerless as anyone else. Nobody looks good on their back with two or three D-linemen piled on top...

Yet you expect Briles to scheme around that? Totally makes sense.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Your observations on Hoover are ignorant at best.

That’s all you ever do is deliver some one-liner with your opinion and -0- to back it up.
Don’t just run your mouth, as you always do. Put your money up.
Any amount you like on Hoover starting and winning 8.

 

[TooColdU]

Crazy that Chandler is only officially a sophomore. At this rate he'll be eligible to serve in the House of Representin' before he exhausts all his eligibility.

And he's older than Max Duggan

 

[Moose Stuff]

That’s all you ever do is deliver some one-liner with your opinion and -0- to back it up.
Don’t just run your mouth, as you always do. Put your money up.
Any amount you like on Hoover starting and winning 8.

Hoover is the most productive freshman QB we’ve had at TCU since I’ve been alive. Better than Andy, better than Tre, better than Max…. All of whom were good enough to take us to the CFP/win championships. Will Josh end up just as successful as those 3? I have no idea. But to say after 5 games that he absolutely won’t is 100% ignorant, especially so when your main reason for it is that he’s not gonna grow several inches as if that makes one ounce of difference.

 

[06DallasFrog]

THT almost went to Baylor, im a relatively younger fan what's the lineage here?

Wayne Daniels says “Google it bro!”

 

[82 Frog Fever]

The last person to put up numbers like Hoover has in his first five starts is CJ Stroud. Stroud first five games were against Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland, Tulsa and Oregon (not exactly that challenging). Stroud also had an all world receiving corp.

Hoover has a 2-3 record as a starter with -0- wins against any team with a winning season, 11 TDs / 8 Ints, and a red zone scoring efficiency that ranks 127th.
That is not anywhere close to the best performance by any QB at any age level.

Passing stats achieved by rolling up yards between the 20s, while falling short on the scoreboard, doesn’t cut it. Hoover’s turnovers in the 2nd half against TT is why we lost, and his Int was a big contributor in the UT loss.

If you just wanna look at stats, Chandler’s are better.
So why should we sign up for another year of what we just saw?

 

[fanatical frog]

Back in the mists of time, TCU had a QB recruit from Columbus named Aaron Schobel. Gary Patterson thought he would make a far better DE, so he became just that. He was a monster at that position, and wound up in the NFL for 10 years or so playing for the Bills. He had a brother, and a cousin who played for TCU, who were also pretty fine players, and Patterson joked that any young Schobels would have a scholarship waiting for them.

And, yes, the restaurant in Columbus is their family's place.

Aaron Schobel was one of the all time greats for TCU. I enjoyed watching him leave a trail of bodies behind as he rushed the QB. Matt came on the fff one night or maybe it was a chat room after he committed to the Frogs......interesting conversation. Bo was pretty darn good too.

Passing thru Columbus one day headed home from a meeting I stopped at the Schobel restaurant......country cooking.....great stuff.

 

[Moose Stuff]

Hoover has a 2-3 record as a starter with -0- wins against any team with a winning season, 11 TDs / 8 Ints, and a red zone scoring efficiency that ranks 127th.
That is not anywhere close to the best performance by any QB at any age level.

Passing stats achieved by rolling up yards between the 20s, while falling short on the scoreboard, doesn’t cut it. Hoover’s turnovers in the 2nd half against TT is why we lost, and his Int was a big contributor in the UT loss.

If you just wanna look at stats, Chandler’s are better.
So why should we sign up for another year of what we just saw?

Oh no, a freshman had some turnovers and isn’t quite as productive yet as the guy who is 3 years older than him. That NEVER happens. In his last 3 starts against arguably our 3 biggest rivals he’s thrown for almost 1100 yards with a 5/3 TD/int ratio and an almost 70% completion rate. As a FRESHMAN. That we have people who can’t see that he’s playing pretty damn good right now says far more about them than him.

 

[Wexahu]

That’s all you ever do is deliver some one-liner with your opinion and -0- to back it up.
Don’t just run your mouth, as you always do. Put your money up.
Any amount you like on Hoover starting and winning 8.

Starting and winning what? The game on Friday? I doubt we win the game.

So what you’re saying is if Hoover starts and we don’t win, that’s supposed to prove something going forward?

He’s a freshman. He’s played as well or better as a freshman than any TCU QB in I don’t know how long. At bare minimum. He’s a very solid choice to go into next year as the presumed starting QB.

 

[y2kFrog]

Hoover has a 2-3 record as a starter with -0- wins against any team with a winning season, 11 TDs / 8 Ints, and a red zone scoring efficiency that ranks 127th.
That is not anywhere close to the best performance by any QB at any age level.

Passing stats achieved by rolling up yards between the 20s, while falling short on the scoreboard, doesn’t cut it. Hoover’s turnovers in the 2nd half against TT is why we lost, and his Int was a big contributor in the UT loss.

If you just wanna look at stats, Chandler’s are better.
So why should we sign up for another year of what we just saw?

1. You might as well get used to the fact that Hoover is going to be the starter next year and use your energy on something else.

2. Can we stop talking about Chandler’s stats being better and not mentioning he went 26/30 263 2TDs against Nicholls State?

3. Yes our red zone efficiency is terrible and pretty much the reason we are not at least 7-4. We need to address line and try to find a deep threat receiver.

 

[Fosterpark Squatter]

1. You might as well get used to the fact that Hoover is going to be the starter next year and use your energy on something else.

2. Can we stop talking about Chandlers stats being better and not mentioning he went 26/30 263 2TDs against Nicholls State?

3. Yes our red zone efficiency is terrible and pretty much the reason we are not at least 7-4. We need to address line and try to find a deep threat receiver.

Feel like KB and Sonny were not trying to show much of the playbook against Nichols. Also 4 incompltions sounds pretty good.

 

[FrogBall09]

If CM has played his last down for TCU he’s got nothing to be ashamed of. He played well. Not great or even good all the time but he is not a bad player at all. Just got some bad breaks with injuries and the guys replacing them happened to play well enough to keep him on the sideline. It’s sports. It happens.

To be honest if he transfers somewhere and ends up having a really good year or two I would not be surprised at all.

if he transfers some where and manages to finish a season it would be an accomplishment- wasn’t it his sophomore year of high school the last year he started and finished the year without injury?

Some guys just get hurt and it would be hard for it not to affect his development as much as he has been injured