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So, was that one of the worst Officiated games ever?

BrewingFrog

Was I supposed to type something here?
Mrs. Brewingfrog and I drove home to our palatial South Texas spread today, having endured the game last night, and her main line of inquiry was "What the hell was that OPI call? The two idiots ran into each other! None of our guys even touched them! Why did they keep making bad calls?" People in nearby cars were obviously wondering the same thing...

Like some folks on the Game Thread noted, in the many years I have watched the Frogs, I have never seen people so enraged that they were heaving crap out onto the field. TCU is a fairly mild-mannered fanbase, not given to craziness. To push people that far takes some true effort, and that bunch of imbeciles out there in the stripes last night managed just that. I hope The Commissioner noticed, because he was standing right in front of us when a CO kid had hold of both arms of a Frog receiver early on that the eagle-eyed Officials somehow missed. Yormark had a clear view of the play. He also had a clear view of all the zaniness that followed.

Like Sonny noted in his post-game remarks, it's been an interesting three weeks. It's been an interesting season. While not all terrible calls have gone against TCU, it sure seems like a lot of them have. Just what the hell is going on with the BIGXII Officials, and why do things seem to be getting worse?
 

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
I said the same thing to Nathan as we were walking out of the stadium last night, and that's saying something given the games I've watched over my 30 years of being a Frog.

It was terrible.

I think the number of bad calls and questionable decisions that are still on the minds of fans (the McAlister no review in the SMU game) bubbled over last night after that OPI call that not only negated a first and goal for the Frogs in a tied game, but forced a massive fourth and forever that was most likely going to give CO good field position.
 

bmoney214

Full Member
Mrs. Brewingfrog and I drove home to our palatial South Texas spread today, having endured the game last night, and her main line of inquiry was "What the hell was that OPI call? The two idiots ran into each other! None of our guys even touched them! Why did they keep making bad calls?" People in nearby cars were obviously wondering the same thing...

Like some folks on the Game Thread noted, in the many years I have watched the Frogs, I have never seen people so enraged that they were heaving crap out onto the field. TCU is a fairly mild-mannered fanbase, not given to craziness. To push people that far takes some true effort, and that bunch of imbeciles out there in the stripes last night managed just that. I hope The Commissioner noticed, because he was standing right in front of us when a CO kid had hold of both arms of a Frog receiver early on that the eagle-eyed Officials somehow missed. Yormark had a clear view of the play. He also had a clear view of all the zaniness that followed.

Like Sonny noted in his post-game remarks, it's been an interesting three weeks. It's been an interesting season. While not all terrible calls have gone against TCU, it sure seems like a lot of them have. Just what the hell is going on with the BIGXII Officials, and why do things seem to be getting worse?
 

JogginFrog

Active Member
I assumed that on the OPI, the TCU receiver (misidentified by the official) was flagged for a pick despite the lack of contact. But the 'authoritative' source Reddit tells me that contact is required for OPI, so, yeah, that was an incredibly bad call (and very late).

Also shocked that Barnes wasn't given the TD on the video review at the pylon. Would love to have heard the conversation in the Big 12 review office for that play. There's no way to geometrize that as anything but a TD.
 

Purple Hearted

Active Member
I truly try to give officials the benefit of the doubt, but the quality of officiating has deteriorated drastically over the past several seasons. We can all recall specific games from years past that had poor officiating, but those games were exceptions more than the rule. It now seems that most games have huge officiating mistakes and I struggle to understand why that is the case.
A HS game that I went to last week with a 7 man crew missed a clearly made extra point and on the ensuing onside kickoff (that they were forced to try due to not receiving the extra point that would've tied the game), the receiving team tried to field the ball after traveling only 8 yards, it bounced off the kid and the kicking team recovered. Same crew that missed the extra point the play before gathered to discuss and decided to throw a flag on the kicking team for illegal touching. Those two mistakes cost the kicking team to lose a game that should've been tied and then they should have had an offensive possession. It just doesn't seem that difficult to get it right. All of this was caught on video.
Walk a mile in someone elses shoes and yaddi yadda yadda, but....
Is it a lack of experience, a loss of pride in performance, poor training? Or does the technology of todays game just shine a brighter light on these guys, revealing things that we couldn't see before? Idk, but surely it has to get better at some point. Right?
 

ShreveFrog

Full Member
@The Frog to be Named Later - From AI:
Yes, the Big 12 Conference does grade its football officials, and this process has been in place for some time, with improvements being made to increase accountability. An officiating supervisor reviews game tape and evaluates aspects like mechanics, judgment, and adherence to rules, providing feedback for training and development rather than solely for criticism. The results of these evaluations are accessible to the officials, who receive game reports and DVDs of their performance to aid in their improvement.
 

Frog93

New Member
@The Frog to be Named Later - From AI:
Yes, the Big 12 Conference does grade its football officials, and this process has been in place for some time, with improvements being made to increase accountability. An officiating supervisor reviews game tape and evaluates aspects like mechanics, judgment, and adherence to rules, providing feedback for training and development rather than solely for criticism. The results of these evaluations are accessible to the officials, who receive game reports and DVDs of their performance to aid in their improvement.
The DVDs might explain why they can't learn from their mistakes.
 

TopFrog

Lifelong Frog
The OPI call was on McAllister, who ran up a few steps, stopped and curled inside. A receiver ran into his back. Apparently they called that an illegal pick on the receiver covering Rogers.

 

TxFrog1999

The Man Behind The Curtain
The OPI call was on McAllister, who ran up a few steps, stopped and curled inside. A receiver ran into his back. Apparently they called that an illegal pick on the receiver covering Rogers.


And the only reason the defender made contact with McAlister (after McAlister stopped and turned back towards Hoover, which is legal) is because he was body checked into that line by his own man.
 

CardFrog

Active Member
I think the problem with a lot of officials is simply ego. I "can't be wrong". If you screw up you screw up and the other officials shouldn't hesitate to step in and say so. There is no way that any officials that had a view of the play would agree with whoever threw the flag. Get together as a group and discuss before you change the outcome of a game. But alas, you will sometimes get an apology from the Big 12 and that's just as good as if they had made the right call.
 

East Coast

Tier 1
The North Carolina game was actually worse. Hard to believe, but true. Officiating has deteriorated over all USA sports, and in CFB it's bad in every conference. Other than making the officials full time employees (and maybe have them call multiple sports), with intense training, I don't know what you can do.
 

Mean Purple

Active Member
The Big 12 suspended a crew in early Sept. for mismanaging calls in the Missouri game. The OPI call last night was potentially more of a game changer.
that was the worst call i've seen in a long long time.
Eric didn't even touch him. The way he ran and turned is allowed.
My dad said the Brian and the guys on radio were blasting the call.
 

PurpleBlood87

Active Member
I still can't fathom how Barnes was a denied a touchdown. He put the ball over the goal line while he was still in bounds.

The OPI on McAlister can be avoided by simply having Rodgers run that route behind the LOS.

Either way it was a terrible call. But like RGIII said after Curtis recovered the muff on the punt "The ball don't lie".
 
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