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Shocking news....Auburn under investigation!

FeistyFrog

FeistyFrog

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Who would have thought the Barners were cheating?

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-11-21/auburn-ncaa-investigation-football-program-trooper-taylor-gene-chizik-cam-newton?utm_term=COLLEGE+FOOTBALL+NEWS&utm_content=COLLEGE+FOOTBALL+NEWS&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=SN

The Auburn football program is being investigated by the NCAA, according to multiple reports.
Yahoo! Sports first reported that investigators “have been working for weeks on potential improprieties involving Auburn recruits, players, coaches, representatives of the school’s athletic interests and third parties.”
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Gene Chizik's Auburn program reportedly is being investigated by the NCAA.
On Wednesday, Auburn coach Gene Chizik was asked about the reports.
“I’m not going to comment on any speculation,” he told reporters. “I’d like to focus on the Iron Bowl.”
Auburn receivers coach Trooper Taylor and running backs coach/recruiting coordinator Curtis Luper are mentioned as people of interest by the NCAA. The two were taken off the road for recruiting, sources told Yahoo! Both assistants did not comment about the accusations on Oct. 31, The Birmingham News reported.
 
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Black-it-out-Frog!

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The NCAA is a joke. It talks out of both sides of its mouth all the time. USC gets slammed with sanctions and penalties, while auburn gets off free in the cam newton ordeal because he allegedly didn't know his dads actions. That being said the NCAA did change their million plus page rule book so the cam newton situation wouldn't occur again. Maybe they were pissed that cam newton and auburn out smarted them so now they are trying to get them..... Who knows
 
Deep Purple

Deep Purple

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That was a case of the NCAA simply looking for a reason to let Auburn and Newton off the hook. Even if one argues that Cam didn't know what his father was doing (yeah right), there's no question that Auburn officials knew what he was doing because they're one of the parties he was making sales pitches to.

Look up "corruption" in the dictionary and it says, "See NCAA."
 
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Black-it-out-Frog!

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Deep Purple said:
That was a case of the NCAA simply looking for a reason to let Auburn and Newton off the hook. Even if one argues that Cam didn't know what his father was doing (yeah right), there's no question that Auburn officials knew what he was doing because they're one of the parties he was making sales pitches to.

Look up "corruption" in the dictionary and it says, "See NCAA."
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NCAA failed to meet the burden of proof under their policy rules for division 1. Cam's simple defense of "I didn't know, wasn't me" negated his connection. NCAA changed the policy taking effect in 2013 to being anyone reasonably connected to the recruiting process. This ambiguous language lowers the policy due process to prevent people shopping athletes even if they didn't know about it. Shifts to more of a strict liability standard.
 
Deep Purple

Deep Purple

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Black-it-out-Frog! said:
NCAA failed to meet the burden of proof under their policy rules for division 1. Cam's simple defense of "I didn't know, wasn't me" negated his connection.
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But it didn't change the fact that Cam's father was acting as a sports agent on his behalf and Auburn officials were dickering with him. That's against the rules whether Cam maintains plausible deniability or not -- and I use the term "plausible deniability" very, very loosely. It's not criminal trial-level proof, but with preponderance of evidence like that, you'd certainly have a good shot at winning a civil trial on that basis.

As I said, the NCAA was looking for a way to let everybody off the hook.
 
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Black-it-out-Frog!

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Deep Purple said:
But it didn't change the fact that Cam's father was acting as a sports agent on his behalf and Auburn officials were dickering with him. That's against the rules whether Cam maintains plausible deniability or not -- and I use the term "plausible deniability" very, very loosely. It's not criminal trial-level proof, but with preponderance of evidence like that, you'd certainly have a good shot at winning a civil trial on that basis.

As I said, the NCAA was looking for a way to let everybody off the hook.
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From my NCAA 2013 D1 manual

12.02.1 Agent. An agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly: (Adopted: 1/14/12)
(a) Represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain; or
(b) Seeks to obtain any type of financial gain or benefit from securing a prospective student-athlete’s enrollment at an educational institution or from a student-athlete’s potential earnings as a professional athlete.
12.02.1.1 Application. An agent may include, but is not limited to, a certified contract advisor, financial advisor, marketing representative, brand manager or anyone who is employed or associated with such persons. (Adopted: 1/14/12)

also
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/ncaa_adopts_cecil_newton_rule.html

It wasn't quite as simple as them wanting to let auburn off. NCAA is a regulatory body and if it doesn't follow it's policies and rules to the letter of the rule it could lose all of its power. If they don't follow their rules and policies, auburn would have dragged the NCAA into court on being arbitrary and capricious.
 
DickBumpastache

DickBumpastache

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It is all Trooper Taylor...the new John Blake. Been like this since he got there. Aubie will probably get the hammer to make up for the Cam Newton debacle.
 
jack the frog

jack the frog

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Just thinking out loud but makes me wonder if/when the new coach search begins if the candidate search changes to the Briles, Tuberville, Petrino types from the Gruden, Dykes, James Franklin types on the basis of being under investigation.
 

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