An-Cap Frog
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Why not the Bull's of South Florida?
SEC Expanding to 14-16 teams, too?
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Delmonico
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QUOTE(George F. Will @ Apr 20 2010, 08:32 AM) [snapback]547223[/snapback]
Why not the Bull's of South Florida?
All of the following is hypothetical......
If the ACC and the SEC decide to join the arms race, the SEC will probably make the 1st move. If they go after and get either FSU or Miami (or both) there will be a place in the ACC for USF. I don't see the SEC ever being interested in USF - not a big enough fish. The SEC's very 1st move would be a play for UT/A&M. It's the only uptapped market in the South for the SEC - and its a BIG market. And any moves for the ACC would be a reaction to the SEC - and the Big East gives them multiple targets.
Why not the Bull's of South Florida?
All of the following is hypothetical......
If the ACC and the SEC decide to join the arms race, the SEC will probably make the 1st move. If they go after and get either FSU or Miami (or both) there will be a place in the ACC for USF. I don't see the SEC ever being interested in USF - not a big enough fish. The SEC's very 1st move would be a play for UT/A&M. It's the only uptapped market in the South for the SEC - and its a BIG market. And any moves for the ACC would be a reaction to the SEC - and the Big East gives them multiple targets.
Mike Brooks
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QUOTE(Frog Barrister @ Apr 19 2010, 05:00 PM) [snapback]547000[/snapback]
<br />I disagree with UT as a cultural fit. They would be the most whine and cheese crowd in the SEC with maybe the exception of Vanderbilt. They'd be well to the west of all SEC teams. And when was the last time UT had to deal with being in a conference where UT didn't run the conference and use it as its own personal piggy bank? aTm on the other hand..... that would be a marriage made in hillbilly heaven.<br />
Disagree that aggot would fit in S E C. All S E C. Schools have smokin hot women. Aggot... Well... Concur on the hillbilly part though.
<br />I disagree with UT as a cultural fit. They would be the most whine and cheese crowd in the SEC with maybe the exception of Vanderbilt. They'd be well to the west of all SEC teams. And when was the last time UT had to deal with being in a conference where UT didn't run the conference and use it as its own personal piggy bank? aTm on the other hand..... that would be a marriage made in hillbilly heaven.<br />
Disagree that aggot would fit in S E C. All S E C. Schools have smokin hot women. Aggot... Well... Concur on the hillbilly part though.
gohornedfrogs
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QUOTE(TCUFrogs @ Apr 19 2010, 06:56 PM) [snapback]546999[/snapback]
My barber told me the Ivy League conference is expanding too. :wacko:
Your barber went to an Ivy League school?
You're paying way too much for a haircut!!!!
My barber told me the Ivy League conference is expanding too. :wacko:
Your barber went to an Ivy League school?
You're paying way too much for a haircut!!!!
Houston Frog
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QUOTE(froglicious @ Apr 20 2010, 08:43 AM) [snapback]547234[/snapback]
Disagree that aggot would fit in S E C. All S E C. Schools have smokin hot women. Aggot... Well... Concur on the hillbilly part though.
A&M is a large university in the state of Texas... they have hot women. Way more than people like to give them credit for, anyway.
They also have their fair share of "agricultural" women.
Disagree that aggot would fit in S E C. All S E C. Schools have smokin hot women. Aggot... Well... Concur on the hillbilly part though.
A&M is a large university in the state of Texas... they have hot women. Way more than people like to give them credit for, anyway.
They also have their fair share of "agricultural" women.
ShivasFrog
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QUOTE(gohornedfrogs @ Apr 20 2010, 08:43 AM) [snapback]547235[/snapback]
Your barber went to an Ivy League school?
You're paying way too much for a haircut!!!!
Or maybe "barber" is the only job description available for an Ivy League degree in philosophy.
Your barber went to an Ivy League school?
You're paying way too much for a haircut!!!!
Or maybe "barber" is the only job description available for an Ivy League degree in philosophy.
QUOTE(OmniscienceFrog @ Apr 20 2010, 12:23 AM) [snapback]547163[/snapback]
A little off base there. Yes, Fayetteville is not close to anything in the SEC, East or West, but Baton Rouge is really very little farther west than Oxford and Starkville are. Yes, Fayetteville is west of Oxford and Starkville, but is only about half as far west from Baton Rouge as Austin is, and Austin is 153 miles farther from New Orleans than Oxford is (510 mi vs 357 mi) and 140 miles farther from New Orleans than Starkville is (439 mi vs 299 mi).
Actually, I don't think I said anything at all that is "off base". Here is my quote:
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Also, UT and A&M aren't all that much further West from Arkansas and LSU than those two are from Ole Miss and MSU. Actually, I believe LSU is much closer to A&M than it is to Arkansas, Ole Miss, or MSU, and Austin is significantly closer to Baton Rouge than BR is to Fayetteville and Austin is maybe an hour drive further than Oxford and Starkville from New Orleans.
As a travel pair, UT and A&M on the whole are not a poorer geographic fit (in the westward direction) than LSU and Arkansas are as a travelling pair when compared to the other 10 SEC schools. Look at a map with pinpoints in each of the 12 SEC cities plus pins in College Station and Austin and you'll see what I mean. The point is, adding the two of them doesn't create an unwieldy, disjointed western division--but thanks anyway for wasting your time mapquesting all of that.
You also made my point when you said that Fayetteville is half as far westward from Oxford/Starkville to Austin (actually, it's quite more than half and it and it's very close to as far west as College Station is)--my point was the two are not very much further removed from the current SEC than LSU/Ark are as a travelling pair.
Also, you pointed to driving distance for travelling fans (teams will be flying) when I had already stated that it was about an hour further drive from BR to Austin than it is to either Starkville or Oxford. While the driving distances are about 150 miles further, the drive is only about an hour longer because getting to Oxford and Starkville requires driving on two-lane highways for quite a bit of it (the interstate or a comparable large highway doesn't get you to either school as Hwys 6 and 290 can get you straight to College Station and Austin from Houston), so it takes about an hour more than it should to get to either Oxford or Starkville, which was why I stated the drive is only an hour longer to get to Austin.
Do you even think that A&M and UT are a poor geographic fit for the SEC, or are you just arguing to argue? Let's not even bring up the fact that conferences like the PAC 10 and Big 10, which are nowhere even close to Austin, are looking at UT as an addition. Like geography even matters one iota when you're talking about the cash machine that is UT, and even if UT was a poor fit for the SEC's footprint (which it very much is not) it really wouldn't matter.
A little off base there. Yes, Fayetteville is not close to anything in the SEC, East or West, but Baton Rouge is really very little farther west than Oxford and Starkville are. Yes, Fayetteville is west of Oxford and Starkville, but is only about half as far west from Baton Rouge as Austin is, and Austin is 153 miles farther from New Orleans than Oxford is (510 mi vs 357 mi) and 140 miles farther from New Orleans than Starkville is (439 mi vs 299 mi).
Actually, I don't think I said anything at all that is "off base". Here is my quote:
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Also, UT and A&M aren't all that much further West from Arkansas and LSU than those two are from Ole Miss and MSU. Actually, I believe LSU is much closer to A&M than it is to Arkansas, Ole Miss, or MSU, and Austin is significantly closer to Baton Rouge than BR is to Fayetteville and Austin is maybe an hour drive further than Oxford and Starkville from New Orleans.
As a travel pair, UT and A&M on the whole are not a poorer geographic fit (in the westward direction) than LSU and Arkansas are as a travelling pair when compared to the other 10 SEC schools. Look at a map with pinpoints in each of the 12 SEC cities plus pins in College Station and Austin and you'll see what I mean. The point is, adding the two of them doesn't create an unwieldy, disjointed western division--but thanks anyway for wasting your time mapquesting all of that.
You also made my point when you said that Fayetteville is half as far westward from Oxford/Starkville to Austin (actually, it's quite more than half and it and it's very close to as far west as College Station is)--my point was the two are not very much further removed from the current SEC than LSU/Ark are as a travelling pair.
Also, you pointed to driving distance for travelling fans (teams will be flying) when I had already stated that it was about an hour further drive from BR to Austin than it is to either Starkville or Oxford. While the driving distances are about 150 miles further, the drive is only about an hour longer because getting to Oxford and Starkville requires driving on two-lane highways for quite a bit of it (the interstate or a comparable large highway doesn't get you to either school as Hwys 6 and 290 can get you straight to College Station and Austin from Houston), so it takes about an hour more than it should to get to either Oxford or Starkville, which was why I stated the drive is only an hour longer to get to Austin.
Do you even think that A&M and UT are a poor geographic fit for the SEC, or are you just arguing to argue? Let's not even bring up the fact that conferences like the PAC 10 and Big 10, which are nowhere even close to Austin, are looking at UT as an addition. Like geography even matters one iota when you're talking about the cash machine that is UT, and even if UT was a poor fit for the SEC's footprint (which it very much is not) it really wouldn't matter.
