Seat License?
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Big Frog II
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QUOTE(Trelvis @ Apr 25 2010, 04:23 PM) [snapback]550256[/snapback]
TCU will be messing up big time if/when they do this.
They are not going to have that many PSL's.
TCU will be messing up big time if/when they do this.
They are not going to have that many PSL's.
masterfrog
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QUOTE(TCU2002 @ Apr 25 2010, 03:20 PM) [snapback]550254[/snapback]
Big difference in terms of the number of competing sports draws. UNLV has much fewer to contend with in Las Vegas (no other college teams, none of the 'Big 4' sports, not to mention not dealing with one of the most iconic sports properties on the planet dropping a gigantic stadium in the same county).
So is this to say that you don't think TCU can find 5,000 people willing to plop down $2,000 a year for premium seats for their football program? I guess I am in the minority, but I am all for rewarding people making regular contributions of a significant nature with the best seats for sporting events. It would seem to just be wrong to me if someone was making contributions like that and they couldn't get good seats betweent the 40s.
Big difference in terms of the number of competing sports draws. UNLV has much fewer to contend with in Las Vegas (no other college teams, none of the 'Big 4' sports, not to mention not dealing with one of the most iconic sports properties on the planet dropping a gigantic stadium in the same county).
So is this to say that you don't think TCU can find 5,000 people willing to plop down $2,000 a year for premium seats for their football program? I guess I am in the minority, but I am all for rewarding people making regular contributions of a significant nature with the best seats for sporting events. It would seem to just be wrong to me if someone was making contributions like that and they couldn't get good seats betweent the 40s.
gdu
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QUOTE(Forza Frogs @ Apr 25 2010, 09:01 PM) [snapback]550216[/snapback]
I agree. I fully expect a rise in ticket prices, but seat licenses, I don't think TCU is ready for that. If there are requirements between the 40's there would have to be a lesser requirement for the other seats.
No, there wouldn't.
I agree. I fully expect a rise in ticket prices, but seat licenses, I don't think TCU is ready for that. If there are requirements between the 40's there would have to be a lesser requirement for the other seats.
No, there wouldn't.
gdu
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QUOTE(Forza Frogs @ Apr 25 2010, 09:11 PM) [snapback]550227[/snapback]
I will be suprised if they move to this system of doing seat licensing any time soon especially requiring 5 to 6k per seat. If they do I'll be having to search for new seats else where.
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
I will be suprised if they move to this system of doing seat licensing any time soon especially requiring 5 to 6k per seat. If they do I'll be having to search for new seats else where.
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
halfwaytoheaven
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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 25 2010, 05:40 PM) [snapback]550265[/snapback]
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
Me too. Running a major college football program ain't cheap (not to mention all the non-revenue sports), and we need to get what we can out of this new stadium. TCU's fanbase isn't exactly poor, so I doubt they'll have a hard time finding enough people to fill up the prime seating areas. I imagine they've done their homework and found out just how much people will pay to see the Frogs. And if the seat license is too much for you (and they generally let people finance those, right?), there should still be plenty of affordable seats in the upper deck. That's where I'll be.
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
Me too. Running a major college football program ain't cheap (not to mention all the non-revenue sports), and we need to get what we can out of this new stadium. TCU's fanbase isn't exactly poor, so I doubt they'll have a hard time finding enough people to fill up the prime seating areas. I imagine they've done their homework and found out just how much people will pay to see the Frogs. And if the seat license is too much for you (and they generally let people finance those, right?), there should still be plenty of affordable seats in the upper deck. That's where I'll be.
gdu
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QUOTE(halfwaytoheaven @ Apr 25 2010, 10:51 PM) [snapback]550268[/snapback]
Me too. Running a major college football program ain't cheap (not to mention all the non-revenue sports), and we need to get what we can out of this new stadium. TCU's fanbase isn't exactly poor, so I doubt they'll have a hard time finding enough people to fill up the prime seating areas. I imagine they've done their homework and found out just how much people will pay to see the Frogs. And if the seat license is too much for you (and they generally let people finance those, right?), there should still be plenty of affordable seats in the upper deck. That's where I'll be.
I got a survey a couple years back asking how much I would pay for these type of seats. I'm sure plenty of other folks got those too and the school could get data on other schools' stadiums. We have some smart folks working on this.
Me too. Running a major college football program ain't cheap (not to mention all the non-revenue sports), and we need to get what we can out of this new stadium. TCU's fanbase isn't exactly poor, so I doubt they'll have a hard time finding enough people to fill up the prime seating areas. I imagine they've done their homework and found out just how much people will pay to see the Frogs. And if the seat license is too much for you (and they generally let people finance those, right?), there should still be plenty of affordable seats in the upper deck. That's where I'll be.
I got a survey a couple years back asking how much I would pay for these type of seats. I'm sure plenty of other folks got those too and the school could get data on other schools' stadiums. We have some smart folks working on this.
Opintel
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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 25 2010, 05:40 PM) [snapback]550265[/snapback]
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
Something will be put in place...I must suppose that a through assessment is/has been made regarding the current season ticket holding fan base. Pricing loyal, but asset limited, fans out of the picture is something that I do not see happening. This will require tiered pricing of some fashion.
We are not funded by any entity outside our own selfs [;~)].
This will be interesting to watch, and hopefully not too painful monetarily. We shall know in the not too distant future.
I'll be surprised if there isn't some sort of seat license/required donation.
Something will be put in place...I must suppose that a through assessment is/has been made regarding the current season ticket holding fan base. Pricing loyal, but asset limited, fans out of the picture is something that I do not see happening. This will require tiered pricing of some fashion.
We are not funded by any entity outside our own selfs [;~)].
This will be interesting to watch, and hopefully not too painful monetarily. We shall know in the not too distant future.
PurplePutt
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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 05:25 PM) [snapback]550258[/snapback]
So is this to say that you don't think TCU can find 5,000 people willing to plop down $2,000 a year for premium seats for their football program? I guess I am in the minority, but I am all for rewarding people making regular contributions of a significant nature with the best seats for sporting events. It would seem to just be wrong to me if someone was making contributions like that and they couldn't get good seats betweent the 40s.
Their may be 5000 who can and would do that. Is that how many we are talking about? I don't think the original poster was talking 2000 a year for premium seats. I think he was suggesting 5000 a year for one seat plus the cost of the ticket. There are a whole bunch of people already dropping 2000 a year to attend TCU games when you throw in reserved parking and a whole bunch of them are not sitting between the 40s. Forza posted that he had 9 season tickets and I know others who have that many. You start making those cost 2000 each and you go from paying about 2000 a year just for your tickets to 18,000 a year. You don't think that will put a damper on attendance?
So is this to say that you don't think TCU can find 5,000 people willing to plop down $2,000 a year for premium seats for their football program? I guess I am in the minority, but I am all for rewarding people making regular contributions of a significant nature with the best seats for sporting events. It would seem to just be wrong to me if someone was making contributions like that and they couldn't get good seats betweent the 40s.
Their may be 5000 who can and would do that. Is that how many we are talking about? I don't think the original poster was talking 2000 a year for premium seats. I think he was suggesting 5000 a year for one seat plus the cost of the ticket. There are a whole bunch of people already dropping 2000 a year to attend TCU games when you throw in reserved parking and a whole bunch of them are not sitting between the 40s. Forza posted that he had 9 season tickets and I know others who have that many. You start making those cost 2000 each and you go from paying about 2000 a year just for your tickets to 18,000 a year. You don't think that will put a damper on attendance?
masterfrog
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QUOTE(PurplePutt @ Apr 25 2010, 04:00 PM) [snapback]550273[/snapback]
Their may be 5000 who can and would do that. Is that how many we are talking about? I don't think the original poster was talking 2000 a year for premium seats. I think he was suggesting 5000 a year for one seat plus the cost of the ticket. There are a whole bunch of people already dropping 2000 a year to attend TCU games when you throw in reserved parking and a whole bunch of them are not sitting between the 40s. Forza posted that he had 9 season tickets and I know others who have that many. You start making those cost 2000 each and you go from paying about 2000 a year just for your tickets to 18,000 a year. You don't think that will put a damper on attendance?
Once again, I am in the minority, but I don't think it would put a damper on attendance. I think most would pay significantly more than they pay currently to attend games with premium seats. I put 5,000 tickets down as my number because my eyes say that is about how many seats exist in the lower deck between the 35 yard lines. It could be more or less, but I think that is close. Plus, it would give an opportunity for people who can't get tickets on the west side between the 40s to replace the people who don't want to make that contribution. People can still get tickets to the TCU game without a donation, but they won't have premium seats. Your investment in the program becomes whatever you want it to be.
Their may be 5000 who can and would do that. Is that how many we are talking about? I don't think the original poster was talking 2000 a year for premium seats. I think he was suggesting 5000 a year for one seat plus the cost of the ticket. There are a whole bunch of people already dropping 2000 a year to attend TCU games when you throw in reserved parking and a whole bunch of them are not sitting between the 40s. Forza posted that he had 9 season tickets and I know others who have that many. You start making those cost 2000 each and you go from paying about 2000 a year just for your tickets to 18,000 a year. You don't think that will put a damper on attendance?
Once again, I am in the minority, but I don't think it would put a damper on attendance. I think most would pay significantly more than they pay currently to attend games with premium seats. I put 5,000 tickets down as my number because my eyes say that is about how many seats exist in the lower deck between the 35 yard lines. It could be more or less, but I think that is close. Plus, it would give an opportunity for people who can't get tickets on the west side between the 40s to replace the people who don't want to make that contribution. People can still get tickets to the TCU game without a donation, but they won't have premium seats. Your investment in the program becomes whatever you want it to be.
PurpleBlood87
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What about people with season tickets on the east side above ground level, between the 30-yard lines?
Sure hope if they do this they stop bringing in Tennessee State and SFA. Also if the super conferences happen and TCU is left out I don't see anyone paying 5,000 a year for the right to purchase football tickets.
Sure hope if they do this they stop bringing in Tennessee State and SFA. Also if the super conferences happen and TCU is left out I don't see anyone paying 5,000 a year for the right to purchase football tickets.
Big Frog II
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QUOTE(PurpleBlood87 @ Apr 25 2010, 05:27 PM) [snapback]550288[/snapback]
What about people with season tickets on the east side above ground level, between the 30-yard lines?
Sure hope if they do this they stop bringing in Tennessee State and SFA. Also if the super conferences happen and TCU is left out I don't see anyone paying 5,000 a year for the right to purchase football tickets.
From what I understand, there will not be any PSL's on the eastside since there will not be a private club like on the westside. The private club on the westside will only be accessed by having paid for the club seats similar to the endzone complex.
What about people with season tickets on the east side above ground level, between the 30-yard lines?
Sure hope if they do this they stop bringing in Tennessee State and SFA. Also if the super conferences happen and TCU is left out I don't see anyone paying 5,000 a year for the right to purchase football tickets.
From what I understand, there will not be any PSL's on the eastside since there will not be a private club like on the westside. The private club on the westside will only be accessed by having paid for the club seats similar to the endzone complex.
PurpleHills
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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 05:07 PM) [snapback]550276[/snapback]
Once again, I am in the minority, but I don't think it would put a damper on attendance. I think most would pay significantly more than they pay currently to attend games with premium seats. I put 5,000 tickets down as my number because my eyes say that is about how many seats exist in the lower deck between the 35 yard lines. It could be more or less, but I think that is close. Plus, it would give an opportunity for people who can't get tickets on the west side between the 40s to replace the people who don't want to make that contribution. People can still get tickets to the TCU game without a donation, but they won't have premium seats. Your investment in the program becomes whatever you want it to be.
For some there is a world between what you want it to be and what one can afford it to be. Now if there are thousands that can pay and will that's fine. If however this expands beyond milking the willing and able to soaking the average Joe then I'll be back to catching the games on TV if possible or once again being a radio fan. Guess I'd best really enjoy this year for who knows what I'll be able to afford to do after that. The game ticket is only PART of the cost of making a game, some of us have to bypass a paid day at work and then the drive to Fort Worth and back, food, gas, ect. To many these things are not small and must be balanced with more pressing needs. I have been preaching the "value" of attending TCU football games to those that have little or no ties to TCU and that has worked to get new blood into Frog Fandom, that line might be put on the shelf if this expands too far.
PH
Should have known that just a soon as they got good they'd price me out of it.
Once again, I am in the minority, but I don't think it would put a damper on attendance. I think most would pay significantly more than they pay currently to attend games with premium seats. I put 5,000 tickets down as my number because my eyes say that is about how many seats exist in the lower deck between the 35 yard lines. It could be more or less, but I think that is close. Plus, it would give an opportunity for people who can't get tickets on the west side between the 40s to replace the people who don't want to make that contribution. People can still get tickets to the TCU game without a donation, but they won't have premium seats. Your investment in the program becomes whatever you want it to be.
For some there is a world between what you want it to be and what one can afford it to be. Now if there are thousands that can pay and will that's fine. If however this expands beyond milking the willing and able to soaking the average Joe then I'll be back to catching the games on TV if possible or once again being a radio fan. Guess I'd best really enjoy this year for who knows what I'll be able to afford to do after that. The game ticket is only PART of the cost of making a game, some of us have to bypass a paid day at work and then the drive to Fort Worth and back, food, gas, ect. To many these things are not small and must be balanced with more pressing needs. I have been preaching the "value" of attending TCU football games to those that have little or no ties to TCU and that has worked to get new blood into Frog Fandom, that line might be put on the shelf if this expands too far.
PH
Should have known that just a soon as they got good they'd price me out of it.
masterfrog
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QUOTE(PurpleHills @ Apr 25 2010, 05:05 PM) [snapback]550302[/snapback]
Should have known that just a soon as they got good they'd price me out of it.
I just don't believe that to be the case. It certainly appears that they will continue to have a number of price points available to select your tickets.
Should have known that just a soon as they got good they'd price me out of it.
I just don't believe that to be the case. It certainly appears that they will continue to have a number of price points available to select your tickets.
PurpleHills
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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 06:11 PM) [snapback]550304[/snapback]
I just don't believe that to be the case. It certainly appears that they will continue to have a number of price points available to select your tickets.
I hope so, it's been a long hard road to be able to finally foot the bill to make the games.
PH
hate to back-slide now
I just don't believe that to be the case. It certainly appears that they will continue to have a number of price points available to select your tickets.
I hope so, it's been a long hard road to be able to finally foot the bill to make the games.
PH
hate to back-slide now
StinnettFrog
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I will hope that this rumor is not true. Although I am sure many can afford that for watching games I am not one who would use my money in that way. Loyalty goes both ways in life. I paid for my first season tickets after the 1-10 season to support a team I followed mainly by radio and occasionally attended live when possible.
If the powers that be decide I need to pay $2,000 or more just for the right to purchase the same seats I have used for over a decade then I will follow from tv and radio from that point on. You can lose a fan base a lot quicker than you build one, I hope they ponder that before over reaching.
GO FROGS
If the powers that be decide I need to pay $2,000 or more just for the right to purchase the same seats I have used for over a decade then I will follow from tv and radio from that point on. You can lose a fan base a lot quicker than you build one, I hope they ponder that before over reaching.
GO FROGS
PurpleHills
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QUOTE(StinnettFrog @ Apr 25 2010, 06:21 PM) [snapback]550312[/snapback]
I will hope that this rumor is not true. Although I am sure many can afford that for watching games I am not one who would use my money in that way. Loyalty goes both ways in life. I paid for my first season tickets after the 1-10 season to support a team I followed mainly by radio and occasionally attended live when possible.
If the powers that be decide I need to pay $2,000 or more just for the right to purchase the same seats I have used for over a decade then I will follow from tv and radio from that point on. You can lose a fan base a lot quicker than you build one, I hope they ponder that before over reaching.
GO FROGS
If armageddon happens then you and yours can meet me and mine and we'll "tailgate" in one of our drive ways, fire up the grill and have our own party and listen to the BEST play by play team on radio tell us how the Froggies are taking 'em to the woodshed
PH
You like Killian's Red?
I will hope that this rumor is not true. Although I am sure many can afford that for watching games I am not one who would use my money in that way. Loyalty goes both ways in life. I paid for my first season tickets after the 1-10 season to support a team I followed mainly by radio and occasionally attended live when possible.
If the powers that be decide I need to pay $2,000 or more just for the right to purchase the same seats I have used for over a decade then I will follow from tv and radio from that point on. You can lose a fan base a lot quicker than you build one, I hope they ponder that before over reaching.
GO FROGS
If armageddon happens then you and yours can meet me and mine and we'll "tailgate" in one of our drive ways, fire up the grill and have our own party and listen to the BEST play by play team on radio tell us how the Froggies are taking 'em to the woodshed
PH
You like Killian's Red?
PurplePutt
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For a small private school, TCU sure has done well in the revenue department. Someone posted the rankings a week or so ago and we were at #53 (I think) with revenue over 40M and significantly more than any other MWC school. I was surprised by that, especially, with BYU drawing over 60K for football games. Don't know where all that revenue comes from but certainly impressive for such a small school.
I'm sure the "smart" folks making the decisions will do their homework and not do anything to reverse the trend in attendance growth. It would be stupid and counterproductive to do that and pretty much undermine the whole reason for building "the Camden Yards of college football."
I'm sure the "smart" folks making the decisions will do their homework and not do anything to reverse the trend in attendance growth. It would be stupid and counterproductive to do that and pretty much undermine the whole reason for building "the Camden Yards of college football."
Dogfrog
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This is what happens when you want a new state of the art stadium to keep up with the quality of the team on the field. Our folks are not idiots. There are a certain number of people who will have no issue paying for premium seats, and IMO nothing will be proposed that will hurt attendance, although it may require some people to move their seats and some might get their feelings hurt. It's called progress. If you would rather listen on WBAP, that's your right.
OmniscienceFrog
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QUOTE(frogforlife @ Apr 25 2010, 05:07 PM) [snapback]550244[/snapback]
Call John Denton at the Frog Club. He will tell you that for 2010 Sections D & E require a $5000 contribution if you want to buy up to 4 tickets. Again that is only for tickets in Sec D & E. This has been in effect for a few years (Don't know how many).
This is not true. We have ten seats in section E and have not been required to donate $5000 to buy them and there has been no notification that we have to pay that to get them this year either. We have had these seats for about 45 years though, so I guess it is possible that they have required that of people that have moved into those sections in the last few years, but have never heard of it before your post.
Call John Denton at the Frog Club. He will tell you that for 2010 Sections D & E require a $5000 contribution if you want to buy up to 4 tickets. Again that is only for tickets in Sec D & E. This has been in effect for a few years (Don't know how many).
This is not true. We have ten seats in section E and have not been required to donate $5000 to buy them and there has been no notification that we have to pay that to get them this year either. We have had these seats for about 45 years though, so I guess it is possible that they have required that of people that have moved into those sections in the last few years, but have never heard of it before your post.
