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Seat License?

NeonLeonClay

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Can anyone give some insider information on the news I'm hearing about a $5,000 to $6,000 seat license a year for season ticket holders between the 40's? This new AD scares me.
 
QUOTE(NativeFrog @ Apr 25 2010, 02:37 PM) [snapback]550197[/snapback]
It's the real thing. Good idea. Long overdue.

I would be a bit suprised since that is more than double the price for club seats now and those aren't even sold out.

I am all for TCU becoming big time but we aren't there. Let's try to sellout more than 2 games a season. I have 9 tickets and as much as I would love to I can't afford 45k to keep them if that happened
 

PurplePutt

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QUOTE(NeonLeonClay @ Apr 25 2010, 03:24 PM) [snapback]550194[/snapback]
Can anyone give some insider information on the news I'm hearing about a $5,000 to $6,000 seat license a year for season ticket holders between the 40's? This new AD scares me.


Where did you hear that?

Normally a seat license is a one time deal. 5k-6k would be real steep for a one time deal much less annually. Do that and there won't be a need for a stadium redo. I'm guessing few would pay that. Let's see--2 tickets at 50 per game and a 5k seat license (per seat) would equal $1766.00 per home game. That is nuts.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(PurplePutt @ Apr 25 2010, 08:45 PM) [snapback]550201[/snapback]
Where did you hear that?

Normally a seat license is a one time deal. 5k-6k would be real steep for a one time deal much less annually. Do that and there won't be a need for a stadium redo. I'm guessing few would pay that. Let's see--2 tickets at 50 per game and a 5k seat license would equal $1766.00 per home game. That is nuts.

Aren't the club seats in the south endzone like $2,500 per year?
 

gdu

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QUOTE(NeonLeonClay @ Apr 25 2010, 08:24 PM) [snapback]550194[/snapback]
Can anyone give some insider information on the news I'm hearing about a $5,000 to $6,000 seat license a year for season ticket holders between the 40's? This new AD scares me.

Seems a bit high to me considering our attendance, but there are alot of good seats outside of the 40s.
 

TCU2002

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QUOTE(PurplePutt @ Apr 25 2010, 04:45 PM) [snapback]550201[/snapback]
Where did you hear that?

Normally a seat license is a one time deal. 5k-6k would be real steep for a one time deal much less annually. Do that and there won't be a need for a stadium redo. I'm guessing few would pay that. Let's see--2 tickets at 50 per game and a 5k seat license would equal $1766.00 per home game. That is nuts.


Seat licenses are, by definition, a one time transaction for the right to purchase season tickets. If they collected it annually it would just be called a required annual donation.
 

PurplePutt

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QUOTE(tcugdu @ Apr 25 2010, 03:47 PM) [snapback]550203[/snapback]
Seems a bit high to me considering our attendance, but there are alot of good seats outside of the 40s.


If they were going to do it for season tickets between the 40's, don't you think they would do it for all season tickets but just a lower cost.

I think it is a real bad idea. We are trying to build on attendance not kill it.
 

gdu

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QUOTE(PurplePutt @ Apr 25 2010, 08:54 PM) [snapback]550212[/snapback]
If they were going to do it for season tickets between the 40's, don't you think they would do it for all season tickets but just a lower cost.

No, there are plenty of stadiums where only some seats require PSLs.
 

masterfrog

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UNLV basketball requires donations to buy season tickets as well, and they are not big time by any means.

Just for comparisons sake:

First two rows behind the benches: $2,275 per ticket each year
Next 10 rows behind the benches or opposite side of arena: $1,650 a year per ticket
The rest of the lower deck behing beches or opposite side: $775 a year per ticket
First 10 rows behind the baskets: $1,025 a year per ticket
The rest of the lower deck behind the baskets exept for last 8 rows of 3 sections: $525 per ticket

If you don't want to make donations and want season tickets, you are relegated to the upper deck or the last 8 rows behind the basket on one side of the arena. Ticket prices are in addition to these donations and like I said, UNLV is not a bigtime basketball program.
 
QUOTE(PurplePutt @ Apr 25 2010, 02:54 PM) [snapback]550212[/snapback]
If they were going to do it for season tickets between the 40's, don't you think they would do it for all season tickets but just a lower cost.

I think it is a real bad idea. We are trying to build on attendance not kill it.

I agree. I fully expect a rise in ticket prices, but seat licenses, I don't think TCU is ready for that. If there are requirements between the 40's there would have to be a lesser requirement for the other seats.
 

TCU2002

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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 04:59 PM) [snapback]550215[/snapback]
like I said, UNLV is not a bigtime basketball program.


They are the premier local sports draw for a metro area of 1.8 million.
 

masterfrog

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QUOTE(TCU2002 @ Apr 25 2010, 02:03 PM) [snapback]550221[/snapback]
They are the premier local sports draw for a metro area of 1.8 million.

Living in Las Vegas I would disagree. People here consider the UFC and the rodeo to be the premier local sporting events. While they do not have local teams per say in those events, they happen here enough to be considered local events. Plus, very few people in Vegas have too much connection to UNLV.
 
I will be suprised if they move to this system of doing seat licensing any time soon especially requiring 5 to 6k per seat. If they do I'll be having to search for new seats else where.
 

TCU2002

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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 05:06 PM) [snapback]550224[/snapback]
Living in Las Vegas I would disagree. People here consider the UFC and the rodeo to be the premier local sporting events. While they do not have local teams per say in those events, they happen here enough to be considered local events. Plus, very few people in Vegas have too much connection to UNLV.


Even if just 2% of the LV population is somewhat interested in UNLV basketball (a percentage that I am sure is low), then that gives you 36,000 potential ticket buyers. Obviously a big enough portion of that group is willing to pay for a seat license to get prime seats at the T&M center. This does not stretch the imagination. LV has a bunch of poor people, but also has a hometown "industry" that is generating a lot of wealth too.
 

masterfrog

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QUOTE(TCU2002 @ Apr 25 2010, 02:44 PM) [snapback]550239[/snapback]
Even if just 2% of the LV population is somewhat interested in UNLV basketball (a percentage that I am sure is low), then that gives you 36,000 potential ticket buyers. Obviously a big enough portion of that group is willing to pay for a seat license to get prime seats at the T&M center. This does not stretch the imagination. LV has a bunch of poor people, but also has a hometown "industry" that is generating a lot of wealth too.

Granting your assumption, wouldn't the same apply equally to TCU?
 

frogforlife

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QUOTE(Forza Frogs @ Apr 25 2010, 04:11 PM) [snapback]550227[/snapback]
RI will be suprised if they move to this system of doing seat licensing any time soon especially requiring 5 to 6k per seat. If they do I'll be having to search for new seats else where.


Call John Denton at the Frog Club. He will tell you that for 2010 Sections D & E require a $5000 contribution if you want to buy up to 4 tickets. Again that is only for tickets in Sec D & E. This has been in effect for a few years (Don't know how many).

I was told by a University official who would be on the decision making team that once the new stadium was finished that the following is on the table:
  1. Those who have seats in the lower bowl (Rows up to street level, I believe to row 21) will be able to retain those seats in the new stadium. However at some point in the future they well require them to purchase a PSL. They prices have not been set, but 50 yd line seats will be more expensive than 20 yd line seats.
  2. Club seats will be offered on a Priority Points basis. Price has not been set as far as I know.
  3. All other season ticket holders on the west side and upper deck who do not opt to but club seats will be located as close to where they are right now as is possible. That would be all west side seats above row 21 and the upper deck. These seats would be in the new upper deck. Again in 1 or 2 years these new seats would require a PSL with the amount based upon location.
Who knows if this is how it ends up. They do not yet have all the decisions made unless that has been done in the last 3 weeks.
 

TCU2002

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QUOTE(masterfrog @ Apr 25 2010, 05:48 PM) [snapback]550240[/snapback]
Granting your assumption, wouldn't the same apply equally to TCU?


Big difference in terms of the number of competing sports draws. UNLV has much fewer to contend with in Las Vegas (no other college teams, none of the 'Big 4' sports, not to mention not dealing with one of the most iconic sports properties on the planet dropping a gigantic stadium in the same county).

One might argue that UNLV has darn-near optimal conditions for making some serious hay with PSLs/Reguired donations for men's basketball). What other college has a market of that size all to itself? Perhaps Louisville comes close?

Austin may be the ideal market for a college team, but it doesn't have the pop. of Las Vegas. Definitely is wealthier per capita, though.
 

Big Frog II

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Well the meeting I went to said that only the Mezzanine level between about the 30's would be club seats. Other than the new suites, the rest of the stadium seats would not be PSL's, but based on the point system currently in place. I think there are too many false rumors out there about these PSL's.

Since all of the seats eventually will be new in the stadium(chair back), no one will be in their same seats as they previously were. Basically, we are building a new stadium in the same location as the old stadium.
 
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