Saturday Blitz: 3 most overrated Big 12 coaches ahead of the 2024 season

[Tyson]

Don't throw all of throw all the blame on the rotten D. Our offense in the second quarter was Briles at his worst: no huddle/no yards/no TOP/no break for a tired, underwhelming defense. Here is the recap in the second quarter with OU ahead 14-13:

TCU 8 plays/27 yards - punt
OU TD 21-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 28-13
TCU 4 plays and turnover on downs
OU TD 35-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 42-13
TCU FG 42-16

Halftime OU 42-16

Yes, the Frogs defense was awful, but they had no chance. It was Briles' offense at its worst: no execution/no first downs/no TOP/no rest for a battered defense. Once the Boomers were comfortably ahead, they stopped blitzing us and stayed back in their zone coverage. Hoover and the Frogs then moved the ball, put up some points and stats in a game that was over.

It was a total defeat and not one to be pinned completely on the D.

First possession 8 plays with no first down?
OK

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Entered into the logbook: "How to Damn With Faint Praise..."

I really didn’t mean it as a bad thing, as there are some great coaches in the B12.

Dykes is not a tier 1 coach like Whittingham, Klieman, Leipold, or even Gundy.
The top 3 are the coaches that are mentioned for big coaching opportunities when they become available, and Gundy has 18 consecutive winning seasons.

Dykes is a tier 2 coach like Malzahn, Campbell, or maybe even Fritz

 

[BrewingFrog]

I really didn’t mean it as a bad thing, as there are some great coaches in the B12.

Dykes is not a tier 1 coach like Whittingham, Klieman, Leipold, or even Gundy.
The top 3 are the coaches that are mentioned for big coaching opportunities when they become available, and Gundy has 18 consecutive winning seasons.

Dykes is a tier 2 coach like Malzahn, Campbell, or maybe even Fritz

Considering the '22 season, it is a fair question how much was the players, and how much was the coach?

Sonny has, to me, a problem like a lot of baseball managers have: "How long do I leave this guy in?" He watched the growing issue with his defense, and did nothing. Well, nothing that we fans noticed. As I have droned on about before, a coach must know what his own weaknesses are, and Sonny seems oblivious.

Wittingham and Klieman are master motivators. Their players would run through brick walls for them, and it shows in their team discipline, poise, and mastery of fundamentals. You are spot on with them. Gundy, to me at least, is one of those guys that sometimes is great and sometimes just isn't. Admittedly, I am looking from a position of relative indifference, but he wins enough "to keep 'em sullen."

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

First possession 8 plays with no first down?
OK

That's not what he said.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Considering the '22 season, it is a fair question how much was the players, and how much was the coach?

Sonny has, to me, a problem like a lot of baseball managers have: "How long do I leave this guy in?" He watched the growing issue with his defense, and did nothing. Well, nothing that we fans noticed. As I have droned on about before, a coach must know what his own weaknesses are, and Sonny seems oblivious.

Wittingham and Klieman are master motivators. Their players would run through brick walls for them, and it shows in their team discipline, poise, and mastery of fundamentals. You are spot on with them. Gundy, to me at least, is one of those guys that sometimes is great and sometimes just isn't. Admittedly, I am looking from a position of relative indifference, but he wins enough "to keep 'em sullen."

Sonny is an enigma. I’m not sure how good or bad he is.
Remember on the ‘22 team Sonny delivered 8 great portal transfers. Without those players TCU would have never come close to the NCG. On the other hand, Dykes had no intention of starting Duggan, as he was all in on Chandler Morris. IMO, it was actually Morris’ injury that saved the season, or at least gave us 3 or 4 additional wins.
Also coming out of the NCG season, Dykes and the staff had a recruiting burn out. The transfer portal recruiting quite honestly sucked! The coaches were trying to coach the team up for Michigan/Georgia and recruit at the same time. The recruiting took a back seat, and I’m sure the OC quitting/leaving didn’t help the situation.
In my mind Dykes needs to deliver recruiting and wining consistency to be considered as a Big12 top 5 coach. He’s got a good recruit class going, but he needs to win 8+ this year and 9+ next year to be in the top 5. I hope he makes it.

PS - Gundy has 18 straight 7+ win seasons. 8 of those are 10+ win seasons, with 5 major bowl appearances. He’s got an excellent program.

 

[TopFrog]

Don't throw all of throw all the blame on the rotten D. Our offense in the second quarter was Briles at his worst: no huddle/no yards/no TOP/no break for a tired, underwhelming defense. Here is the recap in the second quarter with OU ahead 14-13:

TCU 8 plays/27 yards - punt
OU TD 21-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 28-13
TCU 4 plays and turnover on downs
OU TD 35-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 42-13
TCU FG 42-16

Halftime OU 42-16

Yes, the Frogs defense was awful, but they had no chance. It was Briles' offense at its worst: no execution/no first downs/no TOP/no rest for a battered defense. Once the Boomers were comfortably ahead, they stopped blitzing us and stayed back in their zone coverage. Hoover and the Frogs then moved the ball, put up some points and stats in a game that was over.

It was a total defeat and not one to be pinned completely on the D.

You have to make stops. Our defense was not real good in 2022, just good enough, and downright putrid and soft last year.

 

[Tyson]

That's not what he said.

What did he say?
I’m confused

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

What did he say?
I’m confused

He said 8 plays, 27 yards then punt. That means there were 2 first downs in there. Its the only way you can match the # of plays and yardage. The math works out to something like: 3 plays then a first. Then a first down on the 1 play of the next set of downs, then punting on 4th down of the 3rd series. 8 plays, 27 yards, then punt.

 

[froginaustin]

He said 8 plays, 27 yards then punt. That means there were 2 first downs in there. Its the only way you can match the # of plays and yardage. The math works out to something like: 3 plays then a first. Then a first down on the 1 play of the next set of downs, then punting on 4th down of the 3rd series. 8 plays, 27 yards, then punt.

penalties?

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Don't throw all of throw all the blame on the rotten D. Our offense in the second quarter was Briles at his worst: no huddle/no yards/no TOP/no break for a tired, underwhelming defense. Here is the recap in the second quarter with OU ahead 14-13:

TCU 8 plays/27 yards - punt
OU TD 21-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 28-13
TCU 4 plays and turnover on downs
OU TD 35-13
TCU 3 plays and punt
OU TD 42-13
TCU FG 42-16

Halftime OU 42-16

Yes, the Frogs defense was awful, but they had no chance. It was Briles' offense at its worst: no execution/no first downs/no TOP/no rest for a battered defense. Once the Boomers were comfortably ahead, they stopped blitzing us and stayed back in their zone coverage. Hoover and the Frogs then moved the ball, put up some points and stats in a game that was over.

It was a total defeat and not one to be pinned completely on the D.

TCU lost in a total team effort.
TCU loses 8 drives to 5 punts, 2 failed 4th down conversions, & 1 interception
OU loses 3 drives to 1 punt, 1 interception, & 1 fumble.
We couldn’t stop them. They stopped us and we stopped ourselves.

One of TCU’s biggest problems last season was we couldn’t run the ball effectively when we needed to.
TCU was out gained in rushing by our opponents in ‘23. That just can’t happen!!!
It happened two other times this century, we won 4 & 5 games in those seasons.
It kills us in both the red zone and 3rd/4th down conversions.
We must get back to a 2,200+ yd rushing team this year.
Our OL improvement is crucial this year.

 

[Froggy Style]

Sonny will be judged on hiring the right coordinators, and managing NIL and recruiting. If recruiters do well, they will be hired by the teams with twice as much ESPN money, so coordinators will likely have their own transfer portal. Tough job, and different than what coaching was four years ago. I like how he has done a quick pivot when things don't work. Avalos looks like a great hire, but we'll know for sure in a few months.

 

[82 Frog Fever]

Sonny will be judged on hiring the right coordinators, and managing NIL and recruiting. If recruiters do well, they will be hired by the teams with twice as much ESPN money, so coordinators will likely have their own transfer portal. Tough job, and different than what coaching was four years ago. I like how he has done a quick pivot when things don't work. Avalos looks like a great hire, but we'll know for sure in a few months.

Those are the things that may make Dykes a success, but he’ll be judged on wins & losses.
Heck, if Sonny won a whole bunch of games, he could probably hire a Briles family member as coordinator and move forward like NBD.

 

[Krötenechse]

Dykes has already used up all his good will with me

 

[The TCU Football Jerk]

penalties?

Perhaps. I was just pointing out how it could work.

 

[Froggy Style]

Those are the things that may make Dykes a success, but he’ll be judged on wins & losses.
Heck, if Sonny won a whole bunch of games, he could probably hire a Briles family member as coordinator and move forward like NBD.

Agree. My assumption is good coordinators will rack up wins.