Regarding CGP and other coaching opportunities

[texasrobster1997]

Just wondering if I'm alone on this. I have lived in the same city for the past 11 years. I make a good salary, more than enough to live on. My job is very secure. I enjoy my community and friends. My wife is happy here. I have had several opportunites to make more (maybe 25-50%) and even rise in the "prestige" of my profession. I won't even consider moving. Not at all interested. I just don't get this (?american) ideal that we have to continue climbing the career ladder. It seems that being content with a job is a rare thing these days. I think CGP understands this (I hope), but I'm surprised that its not more common.

Anyone else feel the same way? Is it a coaching/professional athlete thing to keep climbing that ladder and chase the buck, or would most people leave a city you're happy in for a raise (as long as you are supporting your family well where you are of course). Thoughts?

 

[NubomTurk]

I moved to FW from Albuquerque in '93 with an eye toward moving to the "big city" of Dallas if an opportunity arose.

It did. I didn't.

 

[West Coast Johnny]

I desperately want to be the next Auburn head coach.

 

[BogeyGolf7]

most of the talk and speculation is from other fans or writers covering a certain school thinking that their program has to be better and can pay more than what TCU offers GP - they don't think about things like that
ex -
Arkansas - we are in the SEC, have never really done anything, but we have to be better than TCU
Tennessee - same
Auburn - same - except for that recent Championship

it's just talk, and I don't think GP is listening

 

[rifram09]

Idk. Certain professions move around a lot by nature. Military, coaches, preachers, etc. These people know this when choosing the profession.

Sure, when they land at their dream (or when they fall in love with the place they find themselves) they settle down. So I'm not sure it's a fair comparison to think about what an accountant, lawyer, or banker would do. Sort of apples to oranges. I also don't think it's an indictment of American society.

 

[tcujsauce]

it's just talk, and I don't think GP is listening

So when he says he listens to every offer, he's lying, huh?

 

[DeuceBoogieNights]

For me and jobs its about two things- Location and money.

I would take less money and live in Ft. Worth then get paid a little more and have to freaking live in Alabama.

 

[Long Time Fan]

Coaching is a little different. If TCU goes 6-6 or 7-5 three years in a row people will grow restless. There isn't much insulation (look at Chizik). Therefore taking the big payday when it comes along is smart business.

The good thing in our situation is GP is getting paid very well, top 10, and could feel he is already getting the payday.

 

[FeistyFrog]

So when he says he listens to every offer, he's lying, huh?

I think he listens the way I listen to my wife. She can be talking to me on and on and then say "you aren't listening to me" and I respond yes I was you were talking about this or that. But if 10 minutes later asks me about something from the same conversion I have no idea what she was talking about....

 

[joejordan]

Speaking for myself, ambition is a positive thing. It allows one to test the theory that 'you can make it no matter where you are', and that your ideas and work ethic are validated. The fact that it can lead to significant rewards is nice, and its own form of validation.

The world needs both kinds of people, however, and neither is a better choice, necessarily.

Some people are motivated by the 'next thing'. Others are motivated by 'security and a comfortable life'. Good for both.

 

[ftwfrog]

Coaching is a little different. If TCU goes 6-6 or 7-5 three years in a row people will grow restless. There isn't much insulation (look at Chizik). Therefore taking the big payday when it comes along is smart business.

This is where I disagree. GP could go 6-6 or 7-5 for a few years at TCU and we all know how good of a coach he is here, so nobody would be calling for his job. He could go to greener pastures, go 6-6 and they would call for his job. See Auburn or Texas. Both Chizik and Mack have won a national championship in the next last 8 years, and now fans want them gone.

 

[BogeyGolf7]

So when he says he listens to every offer, he's lying, huh?

ha - ok maybe not the best choice of words, I mean the news articles and fan talks - schools contacting him is different, but I still don't see anything happening

 

[goldenfrog]

Just wondering if I'm alone on this. I have lived in the same city for the past 11 years. I make a good salary, more than enough to live on. My job is very secure. I enjoy my community and friends. My wife is happy here. I have had several opportunites to make more (maybe 25-50%) and even rise in the "prestige" of my profession. I won't even consider moving. Not at all interested. I just don't get this (?american) ideal that we have to continue climbing the career ladder. It seems that being content with a job is a rare thing these days. I think CGP understands this (I hope), but I'm surprised that its not more common.

Anyone else feel the same way? Is it a coaching/professional athlete thing to keep climbing that ladder and chase the buck, or would most people leave a city you're happy in for a raise (as long as you are supporting your family well where you are of course). Thoughts?

I don't think everyone is like you. Ambitious people change cities all the time for more money and better positions. Many people have serious career goals and want to be on the top of a company or business and make as much money as possible, and this is not necessarily bad.

GP is very amibitious -- we should not be naive. We probably don't know his true and full aspirations that are deep in his heart. At least I don't.

 

[goldenfrog]

Just wondering if I'm alone on this. I have lived in the same city for the past 11 years. I make a good salary, more than enough to live on. My job is very secure. I enjoy my community and friends. My wife is happy here. I have had several opportunites to make more (maybe 25-50%) and even rise in the "prestige" of my profession. I won't even consider moving. Not at all interested. I just don't get this (?american) ideal that we have to continue climbing the career ladder. It seems that being content with a job is a rare thing these days. I think CGP understands this (I hope), but I'm surprised that its not more common.

Anyone else feel the same way? Is it a coaching/professional athlete thing to keep climbing that ladder and chase the buck, or would most people leave a city you're happy in for a raise (as long as you are supporting your family well where you are of course). Thoughts?

Just to add I would guess GP does not seem things like you when it comes to his career. That is just my opinion.

 

[larrythedonkey]

There are some people that enjoy moving (Although with a family it's not very practical). Not to mention the opportunity for a new challenge.I love my job and I would never move but I also know folks that love the industry and type of work rather than specifically the company and location they are currently in.

I don't think LHCGMFP is going anywhere but I can also see the point of changing things up. People can be tired of their surroundings and not communicate it to the public. Personally I never like to complain to co-workers, etc.

While saying that we also have to think about the situation GMFP haws in Fort Worth. He's a king and the school treats him as such (which he absolutely deserves based on his hard work and determination). It's an exciting time to be a Frog and I think he knows that as well. I also think a Gary chant on Saturday would be a nice reminder though....

 

[Frog DJ]

Broadcasting is transient by its nature, and if you aren't willing to move all over the country in pursuit of success you shouldn't get into the industry.

As a young man I aggressively pursued and accepted jobs from the Deep South to the West Coast, and moved with frightening regularity.

However, in 1980 I landed what I considered to be my dream job in Houston, working for and with some of my favorite people in the business.

Over the years I have turned down much more lucrative offers in New York, LA, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans and more - for many of the same reasons cited in the OP.

Don't get me wrong - I was well-compensated for my 30 years in Houston, but there is much to be said for simply being happy, and I'm more than financially comfortable, today.

True, my portfolio would be much fatter had I gone to a "mega-market" on one of the coasts, but I've never regretted rearing my children in a beautiful, quiet suburb of Texas' largest city.

More power to those who wish to "climb the ladder," and while I did my share early on, I'm forever grateful to be right where I am now - physically, and fiscally.

I have much for which to be thankful - more than enough for one man!

Go Frogs!

 

[texasrobster1997]

Interesting takes. For the record, I wasnt saying its wrong for people to move for a raise or more prestigious position. I am just surprised by the assumption that a more prestigious job or higher pay will always win out, especially when one is already making millions. I'm equally surprised that the majority of those in sports seem to feel this way.

I do think the point about career choice and how moving goes with the territory is a good one. I grew up in the military and really don't ever want to move again. My career choice reflects that. Some are just the opposite.

 

[Froglaw]

Coaching is a little different. If TCU goes 6-6 or 7-5 three years in a row people will grow restless. There isn't much insulation (look at Chizik). Therefore taking the big payday when it comes along is smart business.

The good thing in our situation is GP is getting paid very well, top 10, and could feel he is already getting the payday.

I don't see that as much a problem at TCU.

Auburn has an in State intense rivalry with Alabama. It is a 1970's style arms race.

TCU's "rivals" are SMU and Baylor (yes, ut and tech are too). A losing series to ut or Tech for 3 years will not use up all of CGP's equity with TCU fans. However, start losing to SMU and Baylor 3 years in a row and then we can talk.

Even in 2004 when TCU went 5 - 6 and lost to Memphis on a final drive, there were few (and there were some) Boo-Birds. Of course, beating OU in the first game of 2005 took care of those morons.

CGP = Lots of Purple Equity.

 

[joejordan]

I am just surprised by the assumption that a more prestigious job or higher pay will always win out,

I rarely see that assumption. It is usually a calculated risk. Some win, some lose. Some are happy, some live with regret. Usually, we hear about and remember the success stories - because 'laugh, and the world laughs with you, weep, and you will weep alone."

 

[rjohns1991]

I think CGP would give serious consideration to offers from two schools - Notre Dame & UT. Other than that, I think he's listening out of professional courtesy.

That being said, I don't believe he really wants to leave Fort Worth unless the TCU community turns on him, which I don't see happening.